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Old 03-31-2017, 09:17 PM
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Would you leave Netjets for Southwest?

I'm a 15 year XL captain and don't live in a Southwest base.

Thanks for any input.
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Old 03-31-2017, 10:15 PM
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Deleted, Nevermind mind. Cue the balloons and ponies line from Flylow. Everyone (mostly FOs) will snicker behind his back about his line and how out of touch he is.

If you applied, subconsciously you already know. Congrats. Don't look back.

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Old 04-01-2017, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hkdguy View Post
Would you leave Netjets for Southwest?

I'm a 15 year XL captain and don't live in a Southwest base.

Thanks for any input.
45 years old, or less: absolutely.
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Old 04-01-2017, 05:38 AM
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My opinion is if you are under 50 years old, yes, leave Netjets. But it will cost if you don't move to a Southwest base. If you commute, it will cost you time, money, health, sanity.
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Old 04-01-2017, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hkdguy View Post
Would you leave Netjets for Southwest?

I'm a 15 year XL captain and don't live in a Southwest base.

Thanks for any input.
I think thatīs a question only you can answer for yourself. Given the fact that you want to give up your seniority and really reasonable pay with good vacation, leads me to believe you donīt like your job at NetJets that much.
So, if you think you can go back to the right seat for another 10 years and accept a substantial pay cut for the privilege of commuting, then Iīd say go to SWA.
If you like your job at NetJets and enjoy the home basing, then stay put.
I really donīt think there is a "right or wrong" that fitīs everyone.
All of our situations are so unique and different, it is really hard to say that what is the right way for me would be the right way for you.
But since you are senior to me, Iīd say go to SWA :-) :-)
J.K.
Seriously, donīt make an emotional and peer pressure driven decision unless you really donīt llike it where you are.
Good luck and be proud that you have great options to choose from
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Old 04-01-2017, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hkdguy View Post
Would you leave Netjets for Southwest?

I'm a 15 year XL captain and don't live in a Southwest base.

Thanks for any input.
15 year captain earning $170,000 a year, 7 on 7 off, home based, 100% health care and 4 weeks a year vacation. I'd be very hesitant to give all that up.

Commuting is a nightmare. Unless Southwest has always been your ultimate goal and you're willing to move to one of their bases I'd stay where you are.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:07 AM
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I several have friends at the majors, and I know a couple of NetJets pilots.

I'm beginning to think the NJ guys like to tell tall stories. One NetJets guy told me he knows a Phenom training Captain who makes a base pay of $229,000.00 per year plus at least 10% over that with all the extra pay they get. He also said he gets 28 actual days of vacation per year. And he doesn't commute.

Sorry folks, I have to throw the BS flag on that one. No company is going to pay a Phenom pilot that kind of dough. Not even half that much.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hkdguy View Post
Would you leave Netjets for Southwest?

I'm a 15 year XL captain and don't live in a Southwest base.

Thanks for any input.

I was a pretty senior captain at XOJET and left for SWA last year, and I couldn't be happier. You've got significantly different earnings potential at NJA than I did, but you still pretty much leave the house for a week at a time, for the rest of your career, right? I have a 2-day trip today, I don't need to leave the house until after 10am to drive to base, and I'll be home tomorrow night not too late...just to give you an idea of what some of our trips look like. To get a better idea of what you'd be signing up for, what SWA base do you think you'd have the easiest commute to? Can you get there fairly consistently on just 1 leg or would you be looking at a 2-leg commute? Is moving to a base out of the question? Also, how old are you?
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by flightbag View Post
I several have friends at the majors, and I know a couple of NetJets pilots.

I'm beginning to think the NJ guys like to tell tall stories. One NetJets guy told me he knows a Phenom training Captain who makes a base pay of $229,000.00 per year plus at least 10% over that with all the extra pay they get. He also said he gets 28 actual days of vacation per year. And he doesn't commute.

Sorry folks, I have to throw the BS flag on that one. No company is going to pay a Phenom pilot that kind of dough. Not even half that much.
Believe it or not, if he is on the "CC76" schedule with the "Long Tour" option AND he's a training captain, yes, he really is making that much.

10% in "soft money" of holidays, day 1 overtime, over 12 duty overtime, and "after midnight" pay is quoted as the average. However, last year I only made 6% in soft money and I'm on a large cabin international fleet that theoretically should earn more overtime. At least, if you're a Bubba.

As to the OP, depends on your age, where you live, what kind of equipment you want to fly, and what kind of work lifestyle you want to lead. Only you can answer those questions. And we're probably the LAST people you should be asking...

But good luck regardless.

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Old 04-01-2017, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by flightbag View Post
I several have friends at the majors, and I know a couple of NetJets pilots.

I'm beginning to think the NJ guys like to tell tall stories. One NetJets guy told me he knows a Phenom training Captain who makes a base pay of $229,000.00 per year plus at least 10% over that with all the extra pay they get. He also said he gets 28 actual days of vacation per year. And he doesn't commute.

Sorry folks, I have to throw the BS flag on that one. No company is going to pay a Phenom pilot that kind of dough. Not even half that much.
With the higher workload schedule option and a supplemental duty position, this pay is indeed realistic. All fleet types pay the same with the exception of the long-range fleets, which pay a little more on the PIC side.
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