David Puddy

Got another quick look at the Latitude recently. Love the G5000 cockpit - easy to use and super capable. Since both the 350 and Latitude fly a lot, I think it comes down to cockpit comfort since you will spend a lot of time in the airplane.

Any 350 or Latitude pilots care to comment about comfort up front? How are the seats? How much wider is the Latitude vs the narrower Sovereign?

Fredturbo

I think about a foot wider.

jtf560

I wasn't saying the airplane itself sucks- just the way it is used by NetJets because it is so capable of accomplishing almost any mission the company has. I fully agree that the individual pilots HAVE to be willing to fatigue whenever they must. We must all recondition our minds to feel no remorse when calling in fatigued and then actually go ahead and call in guilt free whenever safety demands it. That is definitely not the case now with the majority.

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MWilliams

Understood, the way NetJets uses the airplane isn’t the blood bath some make it out to be. You will fly 400+ hours a year in the 350 at NetJets. Your total duty time however will be equal to people in fleets that fly less than that. So the real question is do you like STBY/Hot Spare duty or do you want to fly? In my time in the fleet we fly 5-7 hours before we get to 10 hours of duty and go to the hotel.

The other good thing about the 350 is Cessna didn’t design the seat. A 6 hour leg in the 350 doesn’t hurt like a 4 hour leg in the 680.

hkdguy

Any NJA 350 or Latitude care to list pro's/con's of their fleets?

Thanks

CA1900

I was in the Latitude before I left Netjets; in the Excel for many years before that. Here are a few of my thoughts:

Pros:
Dramatically more comfortable cockpit than the other Citations - Wider and longer (it has legroom!)
Autothrottles, and they work very well
Garmin 5000 cockpit is very user-friendly
Cabin wide, comfortable, and easy to restock.
Keurig machine is awesome to have
Refrigerated catering cabinet sized very well and works great
Electric door is nice, if you remember to close it before pulling battery
Had enough AOGs to lessen the NJA fatigue calls
Low cabin altitude made a noticeable drop in fatigue level for me

Cons:
Crew bag storage limited to strangely-shaped cubby-holes opposite galley
Coffee maker leaks a lot, and its power source had frequent issues
High-tech, expensive, monitored exterior latches frequently malfunction
Curtain in front of cabin door frequently would come out of its track


Between the two, I would (and did) choose the Latitude specifically because it's less reliable than the CL350.

Flyfalcons

They all go to TEB and are equipped with circadian shifts and cross-country airline rides to chase down.

pugpilot

My 2 cents:

If you are planning on staying - Latitude
If you are looking or worried about a furlough - 350

this is for FOs

frmrdashtrash

Depends if you're senior to me and want the 52 day.

350 is a good airplane but has long legs on it. In five days we flew almost 40 hours including a fatigue call. The plus side is the airplane doesn't wear you out like the smaller cabin aircraft tend to.

hkdguy

Thanks for the insight.

hkdguy