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After speaking with another Gulfstream pilot he mentioned ref for a 450 is about 140. Given that there was about 11 knots of tailwind that lowers their indicated to about 173 so 33 knots fast. Should never have even tried the approach. And if contaminated then max is 5 knots of tailwind.
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After speaking with another Gulfstream pilot he mentioned ref for a 450 is about 140. Given that there was about 11 knots of tailwind that lowers their indicated to about 173 so 33 knots fast. Should never have even tried the approach. And if contaminated then max is 5 knots of tailwind.
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First, the ground speed you see on flight aware isn't always accurate. Case in point: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...644Z/KPHX/KNYL
It says they were doing 180 mph at landing. That was literally the first flight I tried after randomly typing a number after AA. It happened to be a SkyWest flight.
My point is, it is hard to know what they were actually doing.
Second, Flight Options has a propensity for running aircraft off the end of the runway. In large part because they push their pilots to complete flights regardless of risk, they run them until they are fatigued, they don't apply contaminated runway numbers to the factored runway rule and they have redefined stabilized to be Vref + 20. Yes, they changed the last one recently, but it stays a habit. FLOPS is a product of their own bad policies. Now Flex is becoming contaminated with the same bad policies and pilots.
It says they were doing 180 mph at landing. That was literally the first flight I tried after randomly typing a number after AA. It happened to be a SkyWest flight.
My point is, it is hard to know what they were actually doing.
Second, Flight Options has a propensity for running aircraft off the end of the runway. In large part because they push their pilots to complete flights regardless of risk, they run them until they are fatigued, they don't apply contaminated runway numbers to the factored runway rule and they have redefined stabilized to be Vref + 20. Yes, they changed the last one recently, but it stays a habit. FLOPS is a product of their own bad policies. Now Flex is becoming contaminated with the same bad policies and pilots.