Originally Posted by jasmine

A typical rotation:
The company has a "14 and 10" policy. You work a solid 14 hours and then you have 10 hours of rest. When your duty day starts, you are expected to be at the FBO at your start time regardless of when your flight departs. You get 30 minutes after you land to clean and put away the plane and then your 10 hours of rest starts.
Ex: Your duty day starts 05:00 and ends at 18:59. Your rest starts at 19:00 and ends at 05:00. Even if you have 8 hours of scheduled flight starting at 11:00, your are expected to show up at the fbo at 05:00 and sit. This policy is exhausting and starting at day 2, you're really feeling it. Its a senseless and dangerous policy which is a disservice to our owners who are expecting and pay for fresh and safe crews.

Originally Posted by jasmine

Good 401k, match to 6% I believe.

Originally Posted by pilotj123

Regulatory wise, isn't there a cap on how many hours you can actually fly? When you say you "work" a solid 14 hour day. What type of "work" does that mean?

Originally Posted by bjtdrvr

His description is very accurate but year one FO's get 309 a day if you're on the PBS schedule. 42000 may have been his take home. Also on the PBS it is 13 bid periods not 12 so you can be worked up to 208 days a year.

Originally Posted by fooled2x

Well the talk about the PBS and reality are two different things. They can force you to work more than 15/16 days per bid. The company is not supposed to be able to force you onto a yellow line( anything other than a 15/16 day bid). The March bid awarded a Phenom PIC with a 2000 hire date onto a line that only gives him off 9 days in the month. By the time the grievance gets heard, the month will be over.

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

I think many of you are out of touch. Many regional airlines now offer better quality of life and pay than FlexJet. It sounds terrible, I don’t know why anyone would work there. You can make more at Endeavor as a Captain plus if you commute and miss your first flight, they will positive space you on the 2nd flight.

Originally Posted by fooled2x

Well the talk about the PBS and reality are two different things. They can force you to work more than 15/16 days per bid. The company is not supposed to be able to force you onto a yellow line( anything other than a 15/16 day bid). The March bid awarded a Phenom PIC with a 2000 hire date onto a line that only gives him off 9 days in the month. By the time the grievance gets heard, the month will be over.

Originally Posted by jasmine

I just passed my 1 year mark at FJ and I thought I would post what I thought about my employment so far and maybe help answer any questions for those thinking about coming to FJ.
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I appreciate all of the info. Ver thorough and informative. I guess I do have a couple of questions.

1. Why has your view towards TMC changed dramatically? In 2015 you said:
"With all the companies hiring I don't know why anyone would consider TMC. There are literally no perks to working here. No vacation. 2 sick days a year. If you try to call in sick, they threaten to send you home and not be brought back so you don't get paid for the month. Mandatory training on days off. Rolling rest. Very sub par mx. "Merit based upgrade with seniority considered." If you do upgrade (currently a year and a half in the right seat for upgrades) you go to year 1 captain's pay. No bereavement policy. Company does not pay into any benefits which are expensive and quite worthless. It's a company that is run by greedy tyrants who go out of their way to screw it's people over and terminates very good pilots who have been serving them for years. Company fires people for very petty things. If you cause them to lose a dime, you're in trouble. Fear permeates the company and drives every little detail. Some crew members are good people and others are just so whipped and afraid, they can be very difficult to work with. You're stuck with the same crew member for 15-20 days. Yes, we did vote in a union but it will be years before any positive changes happen. Pay is low, per Diem is a laugh. You have to watch your paycheck every month because they constantly short you days.
Any company that makes you sign a training contract is suspect. We have guys show up for initial class and bail after a few days of learning how we operate.
Do yourself a favor and go somewhere with something to offer. This place is a dead end life of fear, misery and exhaustion." I am curious what changed so much...
-What has changed is the times. If you are a pilot looking for jet pic, places like TMC might be a good avenue if you can stand it for a year or two.

2.Have you really been at Flex for a year? I get confused because in September of 2017 you asked everyone: Does anyone have any current Flexjet interview experience or gouge?
Particularly interested in the sim/technical portion in DFW.
Thanks in advance. If you had already been hired, you would have already gone through this, no?
-I have been there almost a year. I was asked about current interview gouge and I said I would help.

If I am about to make a career decision, I would appreciate sound advice. I'm not looking for any personal agenda. I want to know what is going to offer the best place for me and my family. If you could address those questions, I'd appreciate it. The timing just doesn't seem right so everything you said makes me curious. If it is all accurate, then great, it's appreciated. I just want to make sure!
-When I was thinking about coming to FJ the gouge was very old so I just wanted to help out my fellow pilots.
Obviously there is no agenda.
-PJ

Originally Posted by WiskeyTango

There's no way that is possible. 9 days off would be a 19 day line. That isn't even a thing of any color.