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Old 04-18-2018, 02:49 PM
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Why do some insist the healthcare is free at NJ? I can assure you the compensation is less acros the board due to the zero cost health care. Great for the pilot with 10 kids. Probably not the best deal for the young pilot that doesn't get sick.

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Old 04-18-2018, 03:14 PM
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What's the latest with respect to NetJet's legislative effort to have the Age 65 Rule apply to them?

While I can understand their interest in a younger pilot group (I'm 64, definitely 'old'), if they achieved their purported goal, wouldn't they face a severe and immediate pilot shortage?
With any luck, a mandatory retirement age will pass this year.
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:16 PM
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Looks like that may be off the legislative agenda....
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wankel7 View Post
Why do some insist the healthcare is free at NJ? I can assure you the compensation is less acros the board due to the zero cost health care. Great for the pilot with 10 kids. Probably not the best deal for the young pilot that doesn't get sick.



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Good post. This should be stated more often.
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:06 PM
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It is 100% not free. Not only is it not free, but healthcare costs at the airlines isn't all that expensive. In hind sight I think the group gave up a lot to keep it like it is. Having no monthly healthcare costs is cool, but much more emphasis is placed on the value of it than needs to be and that is for sure.
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It is 100% not free. Not only is it not free, but healthcare costs at the airlines isn't all that expensive. In hind sight I think the group gave up a lot to keep it like it is. Having no monthly healthcare costs is cool, but much more emphasis is placed on the value of it than needs to be and that is for sure.
Good point. There could be more intrinsic value in a dc to the 401k and Bfund. I'd take that and a higher salary over "free" Health ins. A family plan at the airlines, is what..maybe 5k/year?
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Good point. There could be more intrinsic value in a dc to the 401k and Bfund. I'd take that and a higher salary over "free" Health ins. A family plan at the airlines, is what..maybe 5k/year?
Mine is 3264 a year for me and my family. I would consider it pretty good healthcare too.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by upontheblue View Post
What's the latest with respect to NetJet's legislative effort to have the Age 65 Rule apply to them?

While I can understand their interest in a younger pilot group (I'm 64, definitely 'old'), if they achieved their purported goal, wouldn't they face a severe and immediate pilot shortage?
It's not in the bill yet, could be added by a "Manager's Amendment". It'll be at least mid-summer before we know anything. If passed it's supposed to have a 1 year wind-down so we don't dump 250+ pilots overnight. Even with a year, it's going to be short handed. They haven't had many large classes. April only has had one class of 7 so far.

My personal opinion is it won't happen. NetJets support for ATC privatization was the real payment for age 65. And that's been pulled from consideration. But the $400K spend on lobbying might work.
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Well they moved faster than the NJASAP Legislative Affairs Volunteer thought they would. If this passes affected NJA Pilots, even the "A-Teamers" will have some serious morale problems. I also suspect there will be a sharp increase in Medical LOA's since the company is still on the hook for 3 years of benefits.

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FAA Bill Poised To Reach Floor Next Week | Business Aviation News: Aviation International News

by Kerry Lynch
Apr 19, 2018 - 5:16 PM
House leaders are planning to bring the revised five-year FAA reauthorization bill to the floor next week. On April 13, House Transportation and Infrastructure (T&I) Republican and Democrat leaders jointly unveiled the new version of the bill, H.R. 4, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018, that addresses a host of aviation issues but does not include the controversial air traffic control reform measure that had been the stumbling block to progress on previous FAA reauthorization bill.

H.R.4, which is packaged with the Disaster Recovery Reform Act, had been opened for proposed amendments on the Rules Committee through Thursday. As of midday Thursday more than 40 had been filed and a manager’s amendment was anticipated.


The Rules Committee said it plans to meet next week to outline the parameters for a floor vote. Full House consideration could come shortly after that: the T&I Committee is expecting that floor vote next week. Lawmakers have indicated a desire to move the bill quickly to prevent it from getting bogged down with non-germane controversial amendments that could come up during an election year.

Included in the proposed amendments is another attempt to pave the way for flight-sharing arrangements, as well as a provision that would bar the FAA from imposing fees for ATC services provided at airshows. Another amendment would call on the implementation of the recommendations from the FAA’s Rotorcraft Occupant Protection Working Group to require all newly manufactured helicopters to meet certain standards to improve helicopter fuel system crash resistance within 18 months. The manager’s amendment further is expected to include an amendment establishing an age 65 limitation for certain Part 135 and fractional operations. That amendment, however, is anticipated to be worded in such a way that the only operator affected would be NetJets.

NBAA president and CEO Ed Bolen welcomed the bill as introduced. “The fact that it’s a bipartisan bill increases its chances for passage, and the fact that it’s a long-term bill should give us an opportunity to focus all our efforts on maintaining, and even accelerating, our continuing work to make the Next Generation aviation system a reality,” he said.

But a provision in the bill calling for a research program on single-pilot cargo operations has created some concern for pilot groups. “The desire by some in the industry to pursue single-piloted or autonomously piloted cargo aircraft seriously places the American public and the flight crews of these aircraft in a tenuous position,” said a statement of the cargo pilots of Air Line Pilots Association International, the Independent Pilots Association, and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Airline Division.
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