Flexjet Pilots it is simple!
#12
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Position: Left
Posts: 1
To all Flex pilots, I have flown next to you for the past +- 20 years and haven’t been vocal about much of anything really. But enough is enough. We are getting ready to commit career suicide. Are you prepared to wear a scarlet letter for the rest of your careers? We already cannot get people in the doors to even interview let alone hire. We are bleeding pilots fast. Who wants to go work for a sinking ship and get branded the rest of their lives? If you are a new hire and got bullied into sending in a card and want to eventually move on, good luck with that interview. If you are like me, a long time Captain, and just want to work another 10 years and get out of this circus, we will be looking for jobs in the next couple of years. What do you expect to achieve by voting out the union, something no other pilot group has done. Talking with friends at SW and AA, the rest of the industry is watching and it will have repercussions. Remember our pilot agreement? And then N2 takes 3 sick days, 3% of 401K, and says if you don’t like it you can leave. If ever a place needed a union this place does. 2N is surrounded by yes men and obsessing over flashing beacons and new FBOs. I don’t think he even realizes that by killing the union he will kill the company. I get it, we were all forced into a bad marriage. But we don’t need to blow up the house and kill our selves and each other. Some of you really need to think this out. Because if KR wins, we all lose.
#13
On Reserve
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 10
To all Flex pilots, I have flown next to you for the past +- 20 years and haven’t been vocal about much of anything really. But enough is enough. We are getting ready to commit career suicide. Are you prepared to wear a scarlet letter for the rest of your careers? We already cannot get people in the doors to even interview let alone hire. We are bleeding pilots fast. Who wants to go work for a sinking ship and get branded the rest of their lives? If you are a new hire and got bullied into sending in a card and want to eventually move on, good luck with that interview. If you are like me, a long time Captain, and just want to work another 10 years and get out of this circus, we will be looking for jobs in the next couple of years. What do you expect to achieve by voting out the union, something no other pilot group has done. Talking with friends at SW and AA, the rest of the industry is watching and it will have repercussions. Remember our pilot agreement? And then N2 takes 3 sick days, 3% of 401K, and says if you don’t like it you can leave. If ever a place needed a union this place does. 2N is surrounded by yes men and obsessing over flashing beacons and new FBOs. I don’t think he even realizes that by killing the union he will kill the company. I get it, we were all forced into a bad marriage. But we don’t need to blow up the house and kill our selves and each other. Some of you really need to think this out. Because if KR wins, we all lose.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Retired NJA & AA
Posts: 1,916
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 350
Sounds awful desperate. Good luck getting on at a major or fedex if they pull unionism. FYI, 3rd year FOs at AA and SWA looking at 200K all-in with upgrade soon to be down to 7 years. Again, good luck.
#18
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Cabin Temp Management Specialist
Posts: 277
You're welcome.
#19
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 72
That is the reason they are not showing up to class. They see what the situation is there and don’t want to jump into a toxic environment.
They heard the stories and promises which turned out to be lies and the old bait and switch.
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 170
What happened to the grassroots pilot campaign? It looks like the plan all along was orchestrated by management. Frank Woelke, Phil Delis, Tim Page, Lonny King, Mike Rencavage, and Ronnie Arnold are surprisingly quiet. I have talked to several of them and they claimed they have the pilots' best interest in mind. Now that I can see thru their smokescreen, I see they care about no one but themselves. They claim we need to be more Flexible, but what does that really mean? 16 hour duty days with rolling rest. No thanks!
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