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Old 04-20-2018, 06:18 AM
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The vuh where the author did sign his name!
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Old 04-20-2018, 05:34 PM
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To all Flex pilots, I have flown next to you for the past +- 20 years and haven’t been vocal about much of anything really. But enough is enough. We are getting ready to commit career suicide. Are you prepared to wear a scarlet letter for the rest of your careers? We already cannot get people in the doors to even interview let alone hire. We are bleeding pilots fast. Who wants to go work for a sinking ship and get branded the rest of their lives? If you are a new hire and got bullied into sending in a card and want to eventually move on, good luck with that interview. If you are like me, a long time Captain, and just want to work another 10 years and get out of this circus, we will be looking for jobs in the next couple of years. What do you expect to achieve by voting out the union, something no other pilot group has done. Talking with friends at SW and AA, the rest of the industry is watching and it will have repercussions. Remember our pilot agreement? And then N2 takes 3 sick days, 3% of 401K, and says if you don’t like it you can leave. If ever a place needed a union this place does. 2N is surrounded by yes men and obsessing over flashing beacons and new FBOs. I don’t think he even realizes that by killing the union he will kill the company. I get it, we were all forced into a bad marriage. But we don’t need to blow up the house and kill our selves and each other. Some of you really need to think this out. Because if KR wins, we all lose.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:53 PM
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To all Flex pilots, I have flown next to you for the past +- 20 years and haven’t been vocal about much of anything really. But enough is enough. We are getting ready to commit career suicide. Are you prepared to wear a scarlet letter for the rest of your careers? We already cannot get people in the doors to even interview let alone hire. We are bleeding pilots fast. Who wants to go work for a sinking ship and get branded the rest of their lives? If you are a new hire and got bullied into sending in a card and want to eventually move on, good luck with that interview. If you are like me, a long time Captain, and just want to work another 10 years and get out of this circus, we will be looking for jobs in the next couple of years. What do you expect to achieve by voting out the union, something no other pilot group has done. Talking with friends at SW and AA, the rest of the industry is watching and it will have repercussions. Remember our pilot agreement? And then N2 takes 3 sick days, 3% of 401K, and says if you don’t like it you can leave. If ever a place needed a union this place does. 2N is surrounded by yes men and obsessing over flashing beacons and new FBOs. I don’t think he even realizes that by killing the union he will kill the company. I get it, we were all forced into a bad marriage. But we don’t need to blow up the house and kill our selves and each other. Some of you really need to think this out. Because if KR wins, we all lose.
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Old 04-22-2018, 05:02 PM
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https://voteibt1108.org/

Website for keeping a union at OneSky.
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:35 PM
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They have managers out en masse. Everywhere you land they are campaigning. But they wouldn't dream of interfering in our vote
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
They have managers out en masse. Everywhere you land they are campaigning. But they wouldn't dream of interfering in our vote
Sounds awful desperate. Good luck getting on at a major or fedex if they pull unionism. FYI, 3rd year FOs at AA and SWA looking at 200K all-in with upgrade soon to be down to 7 years. Again, good luck.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:19 AM
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This month's seniority list is 571 pilots. Last month was 577. That despite having two more classes on the list. And the class that was supposed to start this week was cancelled because no one showed up. Not a single pilot!
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
This month's seniority list is 571 pilots. Last month was 577. That despite having two more classes on the list. And the class that was supposed to start this week was cancelled because no one showed up. Not a single pilot!
So it sounds like the best thing I ever did to further the cause of unionism at Flexjet was to leave.

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Old 04-27-2018, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
This month's seniority list is 571 pilots. Last month was 577. That despite having two more classes on the list. And the class that was supposed to start this week was cancelled because no one showed up. Not a single pilot!
Pilots today are able to do research on the internet and see what Flexjet is all about.

That is the reason they are not showing up to class. They see what the situation is there and don’t want to jump into a toxic environment.

They heard the stories and promises which turned out to be lies and the old bait and switch.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
They have managers out en masse. Everywhere you land they are campaigning. But they wouldn't dream of interfering in our vote
What happened to the grassroots pilot campaign? It looks like the plan all along was orchestrated by management. Frank Woelke, Phil Delis, Tim Page, Lonny King, Mike Rencavage, and Ronnie Arnold are surprisingly quiet. I have talked to several of them and they claimed they have the pilots' best interest in mind. Now that I can see thru their smokescreen, I see they care about no one but themselves. They claim we need to be more Flexible, but what does that really mean? 16 hour duty days with rolling rest. No thanks!
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