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Old 06-15-2018, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear View Post
It was in response to another post. I had forgotten furloughs must be in progress for it to be used, that makes it unlikely unless we see a huge downturn in the economy.
This is actually incorrect. The language says that if the ratios get above the threshold as a result of furloughs OR two consecutive bid periods, they can downgrade. Guess what last month and this months upgrades count as...

There’s more stipulations than that, but it doesn’t solely hinge on furloughs.

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Old 06-15-2018, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBear View Post
And another farewell message today on the NJASAP board. This time a 14 year Phenom Captain is leaving for FedEx. I'm sure he agonized over that decision....
Good for him/her. I was literally mocked when I announced that I was departing. I guess a majority of the seniority list is seeing the light now.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:16 PM
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Good for him/her. I was literally mocked when I announced that I was departing. I guess a majority of the seniority list is seeing the light now.
NJA has a pretty jealous pilot group that surfs the MB. On our MB, whenever somebody announces they are leaving, it’s literally 100% congrats posts. Not a single person starts crap. Maybe it’s because we don’t have a Leiber. When you leave NJA he calls you a bridge burner.
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife View Post
This is actually incorrect. The language says that if the ratios get above the threshold as a result of furloughs OR two consecutive bid periods, they can downgrade. Guess what last month and this months upgrades count as...

There’s more stipulations than that, but it doesn’t solely hinge on furloughs.
Yep, your right. Had to read it 2 more times to catch that. I'm not sure which year is the "4th", I think it's either 2019 or 2020. Or it could be on the anniversary this year.

In some ways I'm glad I went out on medical, this is one of them because after my 3 years LTD is up I'll make basically F/O wages from the Union Harvey Watt plan until I'm 68. (Went out at 60). Getting downgraded won't affect me a bit, I'll still max out the LTD pay. But the company would be wasting a huge amount of money training all these new Phenom Captains only to downgrade them which allows them to go back to larger jets. But again when has wasting money bothered NetJets? And not to mention what that'd do to morale.
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife View Post
NJA has a pretty jealous pilot group that surfs the MB. On our MB, whenever somebody announces they are leaving, it’s literally 100% congrats posts. Not a single person starts crap. Maybe it’s because we don’t have a Leiber. When you leave NJA he calls you a bridge burner.
With one exception I've only seen 100% congrats and an occasional "how did you do it" post. The exception was a pilot who was a "Keyboard Warrior" on the board and was frequently arguing with others. His farewell post had a number of replies that had to be moderated
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:31 PM
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With one exception I've only seen 100% congrats and an occasional "how did you do it" post. The exception was a pilot who was a "Keyboard Warrior" on the board and was frequently arguing with others. His farewell post had a number of replies that had to be moderated


What the Travel Gnome Pollard missed is that when pilots leave NJA, they leave. We generally wish them well... unless it’s a really odd departure to somewhere in left field.

When they leave with class, they get congratulated. When they leave with less than tall stature, the goodbye is less than friendly... well... it’s a zestful goodbye.




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Old 06-15-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
What the Travel Gnome Pollard missed is that when pilots leave NJA, they leave. We generally wish them well... unless it’s a really odd departure to somewhere in left field.

When they leave with class, they get congratulated. When they leave with less than tall stature, the goodbye is less than friendly... well... it’s a zestful goodbye.




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Old 06-15-2018, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife View Post
If you are prior 121, that is probably what did it. People that have 121 usually go back to 121.
I applied like a week ago and no word yet. I guess there not as desperate as it seems on this thread.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:00 PM
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I applied like a week ago and no word yet. I guess there not as desperate as it seems on this thread.
NetJets keeps saying attrition and hiring are just fine, they don't think they have a problem. But what they're rumored to be asking for in the way of contract changes doesn't back that up.

If you go way back in this thread you'll see how crappy NJA has treated some applicants. They were supposed to have fixed that but I doubt it. A week isn't a lot of time thou. I applied online June 3rd for an American Airlines Sim Instructor job (no medical needed) and haven't heard a peep yet.

Just remember if you get the phone interview it's all about customer service. The customer gets what they ask for unless it violates the Flight Ops Manual or a FAA reg. One example they gave years ago was you're flying a trans-con and pass over Kansas City. The owner sees it and decides he wants to drop in and go get a steak dinner. That's what you do as long as you can stay within the rules.
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:08 AM
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Here's some preliminary numbers for NetJets Pilot Hiring/Attrition. The mid-month Seniority list just came out. There were 2 new hire classes, both were just inside this month's cutoff dates so that inflated the new hire numbers.

For mid-May to mid-June 15 Pilots left, 17 were hired in 2 classes.

Here's a YTD calculation, numbers not confirmed yet but they sound accurate. They show a net loss of 18 pilots. There are some other numbers that show a net loss of 7 from Jan 15 to June 15.

Jan: Loss 8 and Gain +0
Feb: Loss 10 and Gain +20
Mar: Loss 14 and Gain +12
Apr: Loss 19 and Gain +7
May: Loss 8 and Gain 0
Jun: Loss 15 and Gain 17
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