NetJets Phone Interview and Information
07-23-2018, 06:47 AM
#482
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Originally Posted by F4E Mx
"830.5 Immediate notification.
The operator of any civil aircraft, or any public aircraft not operated by the Armed Forces or an intelligence agency of the United States, or any foreign aircraft shall immediately, and by the most expeditious means available, notify the nearest National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) office,1 when:
(a) An aircraft accident or any of the following listed serious incidents occur:
(1) Flight control system malfunction or failure;..."
So, the NTSB should have been notified of both incidents. If so, it is out of the Embraer rep hands what gets released to who when. If the NTSB was not notified then Embraer and the operators are digging a very large hole for themselves.
The operator of any civil aircraft, or any public aircraft not operated by the Armed Forces or an intelligence agency of the United States, or any foreign aircraft shall immediately, and by the most expeditious means available, notify the nearest National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) office,1 when:
(a) An aircraft accident or any of the following listed serious incidents occur:
(1) Flight control system malfunction or failure;..."
So, the NTSB should have been notified of both incidents. If so, it is out of the Embraer rep hands what gets released to who when. If the NTSB was not notified then Embraer and the operators are digging a very large hole for themselves.
07-23-2018, 07:52 AM
#483
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
You realize there is a difference between a manufacturer releasing information during an NTSB investigation, and the NTSB releasing information?
07-27-2018, 08:47 AM
#487
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Position: Retired NJA & AA
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Originally Posted by BuddhaPilot73
Any more info on what happened? While I was at recurrent in Feb, a couple of Flight Options pilots claim that one of their 300’s experienced runaway trim inflight. I asked a service rep at Embraer last month about it and evidently they’re not willing to discuss that incident yet.
07-27-2018, 11:59 AM
#488
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NetJets Phone Interview and Information
Originally Posted by AirBear
NTSB investigated along with FAA, Embraer, and NetJets MX and no one could find anything wrong with the Phenom involved. A pair of NRFO pilots did test flights with it and it checked out so was finally returned to service. My guess, and only a guess was some type of software glitch that went away when the jet was powered down. Another reason I'm glad I'm retired and don't have to fly that jet anymore. Had a computer glitch one day up at FL430 that took out our flap control. Had to do a no flap landing. Gotta love the new high tech jets 
This is kind of entertaining.
Any other guesses?
LOL.
“It might have been. Some thing... out on the wing”.
I’m happy the professionals looked into it. I’m happy with the conclusion.
No mechanical discrepancies found.
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07-27-2018, 01:08 PM
#489
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Position: Retired NJA & AA
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22
This is kind of entertaining.
Any other guesses?
LOL.
“It might have been. Some thing... out on the wing”.
I’m happy the professionals looked into it. I’m happy with the conclusion.
No mechanical discrepancies found.
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Any other guesses?
LOL.
“It might have been. Some thing... out on the wing”.
I’m happy the professionals looked into it. I’m happy with the conclusion.
No mechanical discrepancies found.
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07-27-2018, 02:52 PM
#490
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Posts: 466
Originally Posted by AirBear
It's disconcerting to have no reason found for something so serious but then the Phenom fleet by now probably has 10's of thousands of hours on them and I've never heard of this before. So at least there's that.
You’re retired from here?
Why the interest?
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