Netjets Increasing Hiring Part Duex..
#53
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Agreed.
They need some open bids around the company... or limit the newhires to 12 months in a fleet they couldn’t hold on open bid and then displace them out.
#54
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At NetJets:
1) is there complete lack of adherence to SOP’s?
2) do you have wait at airports for 3+ hours at a time?
3) do you as an FO fly with Captains who are too inexperienced to be Captains?
4) do you have to carry 4 days worth of food because you make too little to buy restaurant food every day and/or care too much about your health to eat cheap take-out every day and/or you have no access to places that sell food
5) do you make $35 000 a year to put up with the above type of situations?
Thanks!
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#56
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See answers below.
Okay let me ask this-
At NetJets:
1) is there complete lack of adherence to SOP’s? No, not really. Most captains are by the book. Great group of professionals for the most part.
2) do you have wait at airports for 3+ hours at a time? Yes, it’s part of the job. Find a side gig and make money on the side if you want to fill in your time at the airport.
3) do you as an FO fly with Captains who are too inexperienced to be Captains? There are a few, but for the most part it’s a very good group.
4) do you have to carry 4 days worth of food because you make too little to buy restaurant food every day and/or care too much about your health to eat cheap take-out every day and/or you have no access to places that sell food
No you get a per diem + crew food which is hit or miss in quality. Don’t like your meal? Expense it and get $23 to go grab better food, it’s this simple yet not many pilots do it. You’d be surprised. They just complain about it.
5) do you make $35 000 a year to put up with the above type of situations?
Thanks!
At NetJets:
1) is there complete lack of adherence to SOP’s? No, not really. Most captains are by the book. Great group of professionals for the most part.
2) do you have wait at airports for 3+ hours at a time? Yes, it’s part of the job. Find a side gig and make money on the side if you want to fill in your time at the airport.
3) do you as an FO fly with Captains who are too inexperienced to be Captains? There are a few, but for the most part it’s a very good group.
4) do you have to carry 4 days worth of food because you make too little to buy restaurant food every day and/or care too much about your health to eat cheap take-out every day and/or you have no access to places that sell food
No you get a per diem + crew food which is hit or miss in quality. Don’t like your meal? Expense it and get $23 to go grab better food, it’s this simple yet not many pilots do it. You’d be surprised. They just complain about it.
5) do you make $35 000 a year to put up with the above type of situations?
Thanks!
#57
Okay let me ask this-
At NetJets:
1) is there complete lack of adherence to SOP’s?
NetJets is not a small mom & pop operation. With 2400+ pilots we have to operate within the SOPs. At NetJets we use our own FAA approved publication that are on par with any part 121 carrier.
2) do you have wait at airports for 3+ hours at a time?
Yes, we do spend time on airport standby. We do not have a regular schedule. When a weather delay, sick crew member, broken airplane.... event happens another crew/airplane will recover the trip. Nobody enjoys doing it but the business model requires it. Some fleets/crews sit more than others and based on my time at the company I fly a lot more than I sit.
3) do you as an FO fly with Captains who are too inexperienced to be Captains?
All of the captains at NetJets have been employed for at least 12 years. If any pilot, captain or f/o, does not meet the standard there are ways to deal with it.
4) do you have to carry 4 days worth of food because you make too little to buy restaurant food every day and/or care too much about your health to eat cheap take-out every day and/or you have no access to places that sell food
I have yet to see a NetJets pilot that is malnourished. We can receive up to 4 crew meals per day in addition to our per diem. Coming from a regional it will be a step up.
5) do you make $35 000 a year to put up with the above type of situations?
I have run numbers and it is my conclusion that $70,000 year one can easily be made. I figured 2 months of initial training on the CC72 pay scale, 10 months on the 7/7 pay scale plus a 10% override for the 10 months on the 7/7 to count for overtime, holiday pay and some other soft money. I didn’t include per diem and insurance cost (you will have zero money out of pocket towards your monthly health/dental/vision...)
Thanks!
At NetJets:
1) is there complete lack of adherence to SOP’s?
NetJets is not a small mom & pop operation. With 2400+ pilots we have to operate within the SOPs. At NetJets we use our own FAA approved publication that are on par with any part 121 carrier.
2) do you have wait at airports for 3+ hours at a time?
Yes, we do spend time on airport standby. We do not have a regular schedule. When a weather delay, sick crew member, broken airplane.... event happens another crew/airplane will recover the trip. Nobody enjoys doing it but the business model requires it. Some fleets/crews sit more than others and based on my time at the company I fly a lot more than I sit.
3) do you as an FO fly with Captains who are too inexperienced to be Captains?
All of the captains at NetJets have been employed for at least 12 years. If any pilot, captain or f/o, does not meet the standard there are ways to deal with it.
4) do you have to carry 4 days worth of food because you make too little to buy restaurant food every day and/or care too much about your health to eat cheap take-out every day and/or you have no access to places that sell food
I have yet to see a NetJets pilot that is malnourished. We can receive up to 4 crew meals per day in addition to our per diem. Coming from a regional it will be a step up.
5) do you make $35 000 a year to put up with the above type of situations?
I have run numbers and it is my conclusion that $70,000 year one can easily be made. I figured 2 months of initial training on the CC72 pay scale, 10 months on the 7/7 pay scale plus a 10% override for the 10 months on the 7/7 to count for overtime, holiday pay and some other soft money. I didn’t include per diem and insurance cost (you will have zero money out of pocket towards your monthly health/dental/vision...)
Thanks!
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#59
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Position: MD-11 FO
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#60
As long as he has the right to live and work in the US, it sounds like he does, he is good to go. There is a little more paperwork involved for each training event but I’m sure he has done that before.
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