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Originally Posted by Das Auto (Post 2684628)

I had this dailema last year. I was offered a position at Netjets but ultimately decided to stay here at Gama. Both are great companies if you live in a smaller hub and don't want to commute. They both also have excellent health care which is very important to me. An APU would be nice in the summer but the King Air is still a great airplane to me and I enjoy the flying.

I stayed mostly for financial reasons but I have to say I was very impressed with the way that Gama treated me and my family when my kids were born.

The growth is at Gama regarding upgrades and transitioning to the training department etc. 3 year King Air guys are now moving over to the XL and X but keep their current pay scale.

The schedule and crew meals are better at NJ for sure, but if you're looking for career progression you'd move more quickly at Gama.

You could go to a regional but from someone who spent 6 years at one I can assure you that your life will be miserable. I'm not sure the slight edge it would give you is worth it. Multi crew turbine PIC time is mainly what the majors want to see. There's not a huge difference between part 121 and part 135 other than the size of the aircraft. As someone already mentioned, Southwest particularly likes Net Jets guys and we've had our share go over there too.

Thanks, I was at a regional for 8 years and hated it, have no interest in a Major as driving 3 hours each way in traffic to a DC base 5 times a month does not interest me.

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Originally Posted by Retractable (Post 2682787)

350 service via a GPU.

High class.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e0595931b4.jpg

I’ve never seen a NetJets airplane “saving money” like that.

Our current fuel savings incentive payout program will put approximately $27/hour back in your pocket that you don’t run the APU (assuming avg fuel price of $3.7/g).

Management never pushes this practice. As a matter of fact they tend to lean in the opposite direct and ask us to start the APU sooner in the event of problems on APU start.

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Originally Posted by LJ JE (Post 2686353)

83 Octane in a Ferrari.

Got it.

Luxury.

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Originally Posted by Retractable (Post 2686371)

83 Octane in a Ferrari.

Got it.

Luxury.

I will run a GPU all day, any day, when it makes sense. I'll also get my rental car pulled up to the plane for me, go take a nap and then have a real dinner. :)

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Originally Posted by flyskisail (Post 2686394)

I will run a GPU all day, any day, when it makes sense. I'll also get my rental car pulled up to the plane for me, go take a nap and then have a real dinner. :)

Gotta pay that mortgage baby!

Dinner and rentals! [emoji1303]

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Originally Posted by Retractable (Post 2686423)

Gotta pay that mortgage baby!

Dinner and rentals! [emoji1303]

See that's the thing, it's not just about the money to me. I totally get that to some people it is. No slight against them or that at all.

For me, I prefer living well on the road, going home feeling refreshed and enjoy working with every single person I fly or interact with at the company. I enjoy the feeling of knowing the company is looking out for me and that they aren't just in it to make the biggest buck. (I know I will get flamed for this, "You'll get screwed", "you're an idiot", etc. etc. I've heard it all and don't care.)

I laugh when certain operators wont even talk to me. Literally I've had guys grunt at me after I say good morning.

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Originally Posted by Retractable (Post 2686371)

83 Octane in a Ferrari.

Got it.

Luxury.

The airplane actually feels more like a minivan compared to other jets. That’s exactly what its used as anyway, hauling families across the country. Interesting metaphor though.

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Originally Posted by Retractable (Post 2686423)

Gotta pay that mortgage baby!

Dinner and rentals! [emoji1303]

John, you realize your emojis don’t work under this screen name either, right?

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Originally Posted by Venkman (Post 2677057)

Is there any hope of getting your preference between those? For someone who's interested in NJ but hates the Phenom?

I am interested in why you hate the Phenom (other that the "handles") I hear it is an extremely easy type and easy to fly airplane?

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Originally Posted by Guard (Post 2688942)

I am interested in why you hate the Phenom (other that the "handles") I hear it is an extremely easy type and easy to fly airplane?

It’s EXTREMELY cramped for anybody taller than about 6 feet, especially the Netjets version which added a cabinet behind the pilot seats robbing the crew of even more room. I’ve sat in the Embraer factory 300 demonstrator without the cabinet and it is easily the smallest cockpit I’ve ever been in, including the Lear 24. No chance of full control authority for somebody larger than Kenny Baker (the actor that played R2D2).

That is the primary bone of contention but there are also concerns among some pilots because the airplane was certified under Part 23. There are certain “quirks” not seen in the rest of the fleets.