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Old 09-19-2018, 02:26 AM
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Thoughts on going left seat at Gama verses new hire at NetJets, what jets are guys getting at NetJets? Pay etc. Everything at Gama is 350 wheels up? What’s upgrade time at NetJets?
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:46 AM
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Upgrade: I was hired in 2006 and am still 200 spots away from upgrading. That being said, during that time period there were hiring freezes, a shrinking pilot group, and furloughs so I would hope that someone coming on property now would need to wait as long. Currently though, upgrade times are 13 - 14 years.

Pay: I think that the numbers on APC may be a little old but within $5,000 or $6,000 from our current pay scales. I've also heard that you add 10% for overtime, etc. To get at actual number. When looking at the pay for each schedule, I'm pretty sure a new hire can hold any schedule except perhaps the 52 day (the base schedule is 7 on 7 off. The numbers with the other schedules refer to how many days you work over a 4 month time period).

Aircraft: Recently new hires have been going to the Phenom 300, or a Citation.

Good luck with your choice.
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Originally Posted by illinipilot View Post
Aircraft: Recently new hires have been going to the Phenom 300, or a Citation.

Good luck with your choice.
Is there any hope of getting your preference between those? For someone who's interested in NJ but hates the Phenom?
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Is there any hope of getting your preference between those? For someone who's interested in NJ but hates the Phenom?
I don't think so. Someone who was hired more recently may have better insight. I think they just assign you the aircraft in class.. maybe regardless of seniority?..
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:06 AM
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Thoughts on going left seat at Gama verses new hire at NetJets, what jets are guys getting at NetJets? Pay etc. Everything at Gama is 350 wheels up? What’s upgrade time at NetJets?
You might ask this in the Part 135 section to get more Gama guys chiming in. You would probably have more days off and have an apu at Netjets however the pay would be a bit lower, at least initially. It all depends on what is important to you.
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You can also look at XoJet. We have a great pilot group with quick upgrades. And no matter what aircraft you get, it will have an APU and externally serviced lav,which believe me,is a big deal.
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Thoughts on going left seat at Gama verses new hire at NetJets, what jets are guys getting at NetJets? Pay etc. Everything at Gama is 350 wheels up? What’s upgrade time at NetJets?
PM me, was at Gama, at NJ now.
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Is there any hope of getting your preference between those? For someone who's interested in NJ but hates the Phenom?
You will be placed in a Phenom or a Citation depending on the needs of the company. We have numerous 2015+ new hires that are starting to come off seat lock in the Phenom, so the company may be looking at filling more slots there as those seats get vacated.
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Upgrade time is currently 13 years.

Each monthly upgrade award has steadily been 10-14 a month for the last 6 months.


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Thoughts on going left seat at Gama verses new hire at NetJets, what jets are guys getting at NetJets? Pay etc. Everything at Gama is 350 wheels up? What’s upgrade time at NetJets?
Go to XOJet while you wait for Majors to call. Smartest plan.
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