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#321
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 110
7&7 equates to 15.2 work days a month. That's nothing to write home about. Where I am now as a junior guy in base I hold lines working 12 days a month. Max vacation is five weeks where I am now not four like NJA. This is standard in the industry. My first vacation I turned into 25 days off for one week. My last 32 days.
For the person who said they don't want to be on reserve at a 121 main line carrier, realize that it will be temporary at an airline, while it will be reserve ON STEROIDS for your entire career at NJA.
This is the best hiring environment in the history of aviation. Choose wisely.
For the person who said they don't want to be on reserve at a 121 main line carrier, realize that it will be temporary at an airline, while it will be reserve ON STEROIDS for your entire career at NJA.
This is the best hiring environment in the history of aviation. Choose wisely.
#322
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Weekends off
Posts: 397
7&7 equates to 15.2 work days a month. That's nothing to write home about. Where I am now as a junior guy in base I hold lines working 12 days a month. Max vacation is five weeks where I am now not four like NJA. This is standard in the industry. My first vacation I turned into 25 days off for one week. My last 32 days.
For the person who said they don't want to be on reserve at a 121 main line carrier, realize that it will be temporary at an airline, while it will be reserve ON STEROIDS for your entire career at NJA.
This is the best hiring environment in the history of aviation. Choose wisely.
For the person who said they don't want to be on reserve at a 121 main line carrier, realize that it will be temporary at an airline, while it will be reserve ON STEROIDS for your entire career at NJA.
This is the best hiring environment in the history of aviation. Choose wisely.
Assuming the employee uses the 7 PTO days the 7n7 is 12.3 days per month average and including 28 vacation days.
In the cc52 example I provided it works out to 10 days per month average.
#323
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 110
We also get a week more of sick time than I did at NJA. For the person who desires maximum time off, they will work easily 50 days less a year than at NJA on the 7&7. The 52 is not available to everyone, and doesn't pay very much for those who hold it.
#324
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Weekends off
Posts: 397
Base wages
15 year pic 7n7 170784
15 year pic 52 162245
15 year pic 52/8 167112
3672 loss per year for the 52 day with 8 day tours. Reasonable, when you consider you are working 27 days less per year.
You are right...the 52 day does tend to go senior. Although, I wonder if that holds true if the IBI passes.
How many sick days do you earn per month at your place of employment?
#327
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Weekends off
Posts: 397
The CC52 used to go rather junior in the Phenom...a 3 year hire held it. However, it is trending more senior. Just over 200 pilots hold the 52 day....out of over 2450. Although, that doesn't indicate if every slot is taken in every fleet/seat.
#328
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 313
7&7 equates to 15.2 work days a month. That's nothing to write home about. Where I am now as a junior guy in base I hold lines working 12 days a month. Max vacation is five weeks where I am now not four like NJA. This is standard in the industry. My first vacation I turned into 25 days off for one week. My last 32 days.
For the person who said they don't want to be on reserve at a 121 main line carrier, realize that it will be temporary at an airline, while it will be reserve ON STEROIDS for your entire career at NJA.
This is the best hiring environment in the history of aviation. Choose wisely.
For the person who said they don't want to be on reserve at a 121 main line carrier, realize that it will be temporary at an airline, while it will be reserve ON STEROIDS for your entire career at NJA.
This is the best hiring environment in the history of aviation. Choose wisely.
I don’t think there is a right or wrong, I know kids in my reserve unit who got hired at 27 with Delta, they will be millionares at 40, I just got other priorities that NJA gives me the paid time off for without stress of a commute! It’s definitly more work with some stuff here but to Each his own!
Last edited by Guard; 12-02-2018 at 04:01 PM.
#329
You can look at it that way, but it's disingenuous. A week of 11-hour days is 77 hours, which is what most of the world works in two weeks. You're working twice as hard while at work in order to get that week off.
#330
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 279
Is the pay scale on APC still accurate? Can one still count on making 62k for. 7/7 schedule? It makes sense that the 76-day schedule would pay more, and 80k vs 60k is a big difference. When working the 76 day what would be the average rotation? I know it can slide and as I understand it’s a PBS style schedule but do you ever get only 1 or 2 days off at a time similar to the airlines? That right now is my biggest issue with 121 schedules. Any time off that is less than 3 days between trips feels like a waste, especially when it’s 4-6 on with only 2 off like a typical reserve schedule
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