tm602

Actually, you kind of do. Part of my fatigue call always includes the time I am able to start the next duty period. Never had a hiccup with it (at least not since Handjob left anyway).

OtherGuy

I am the last to defend this company for some of their stupidity but I will admit I do not always have the big picture. They may not know you have not jammed an L-8 in your mouth. A handful of people are managing a dynamic operation. If I need to be that one dude who jacks up their flow, well, happy to do it. But to sit back and let them rail you (and they will) well...that's on you.

As far as where you go...come on man, you know that's not what I meant. No flying operation gives the pilot that much control. If they gave it to me, I would do pattern work at my local airport in the jet.

How many legs....yes you do have control.

When your day starts...yes you do have control.
When your day ends...yes you do have control.
When you eat...yes you do have control.

You're not doing it right and complaining about it.

OhSnapAF

Yea but that implies that you have ultimate control, or fatigue nightly. Sure you tell them when you want to start again but you do that what, once a tour, twice at most?

OhSnapAF

No, you really don’t. You get to do that ONLY when you fatigue.

Control when you eat? Yes. I often called and said I needed to go get food. But as far as when your days start, no. How many legs you fly? No. Where you go? No. Only when you fatigue do you get to manipulate SOME of those things.

OtherGuy

Your experience at this company is/was different. I do not let myself get beat up on the road.

Do you control all those things at wherever you are now?

OhSnapAF

I am with you. I paused when I needed to and I fatigued at least once a tour, often twice. But again, you don't get the daily manipulation of your schedule and in reality you don't get much manipulation of your schedule. The CCs give a bit of flexibility as far as days off you want which is nice.

The day to day I don't control at where I am now, but I do the month before when I bid. I bid for trips I want, whether I want red eyes or not, where I want to go, and what times I want to start. For the most part I get what I want which is really nice, but I am not super picky. I hate red eyes, I don't like super early morning starts, and I like avoiding east coast airports (west coast based) and for the most part I get what I want which is great.

Maybe regional schedules are like NJA, but my airline schedule is like 2 legs a day, sometimes 3. Usually 8-9 hours of duty and at at least a 14 hour overnight, typically 18-19 so I never feel that pressure to have to stop the buck. But no I don't call up each day and tell them where and when I want to go, just like NJA, but like I said I got to choose that when I bid for that month.

Guard

Sounds like things are moving along very quickly now, seems they want this done before father Warren gives up full control of BH at the end of the year, will look good for the mother ship! Walked away for 4 days then AJ called Union to come back, very interesting!

Better do something as I see lots of old guys in interviews and lots of young guys tuning up Majors applications!

Ni hao

I hear 40K for F/O's across the board raise.

ASACapt

Yea but no pay raises for every FO. Just an extension of the current pay scale. They need to increase the FO and PIC pay. Then match the FO pay for GLC and the longevity bonus.


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OhSnapAF

As in just a 40k payout to every FO? Or 40k a year raise to the current FO rates?