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Old 12-11-2018, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Peloton View Post
You don’t fly 600 hours a year. I just had a Brio report pulled. NJA does not have any 600 hour wonder kids in the
Lattitude.

Whatever you fly will regress toward the mean. That is a guarantee.

Good luck man...hope you enjoy the links.
What fleet gets the most hours?
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:09 PM
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What fleet gets the most hours?
I gotta think the global, but the Latitude and 350 are up there as well. According to management were doing 1/3 more flying with 1/3 less pilots.
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... that is 26 weeks-6 weeks for vacation and days off associated with those days (14 extra days per 7 days of vacation under the contract)
You're grossly misinterpreting the vacation language. On the 7/7, you have 26 weeks off, and 26 weeks on. A vacation week removes one of the "on" weeks; it does not at all affect the remaining "off" weeks that you would already have. It merely takes away the 7-day work week between them. Yes, you end up with 21 contiguous days off, but 14 of those are days you already had off. (And if you're on one of the CC schedules, you may end up with only 15 contiguous days off, but the number of workdays removed from the schedule is still 7.)

So 26 work weeks, minus two weeks of vacation, is 24 work weeks.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:46 AM
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You're grossly misinterpreting the vacation language. On the 7/7, you have 26 weeks off, and 26 weeks on. A vacation week removes one of the "on" weeks; it does not at all affect the remaining "off" weeks that you would already have. It merely takes away the 7-day work week between them. Yes, you end up with 21 contiguous days off, but 14 of those are days you already had off. (And if you're on one of the CC schedules, you may end up with only 15 contiguous days off, but the number of workdays removed from the schedule is still 7.)

So 26 work weeks, minus two weeks of vacation, is 24 work weeks.
Misrepresenting pay and time off is the only way to make it look good.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:31 AM
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I gotta think the global, but the Latitude and 350 are up there as well. According to management were doing 1/3 more flying with 1/3 less pilots.
Can a new hire expect to get hired into any of those aircraft? I imagine the global is pretty senior but what about the 305 and latitude?
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:30 AM
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New hires are going into the Phenom, XL, Latitude, Sovereign, an X.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:04 AM
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I got this from a senior Captain at the bar last night who was on the negotiating committee, Union and Company envision a guy working 7/7 schedule making about $95-110K first year with new incentives based on fleet type. With 14 days of vacation = 6 weeks off (3 weeks for each 7 day tour of vacation taken) 12 sick days and 9 PTO days, basically you should work about 142-148 days a year on 7/7 schedule if you took it all. Fly about 270-320 hours a year. Not bad money for working that amount of days, I am already looking at what side business I want to start. Now that could all change with the 135 work and rest rules FAA legislation working its way through congress, NJA is pushing for a 70 year old retirement age for 135 so that could help movement a lot.
FANTASY. And by the way, it's not 12 sick days a year AND 9 PTO days. It's ONE day earned per month for a total of 12, OF WHICH 7 can be used for PTO, the remainder of which can ONLY be used for sick. Short version: 12 days, not 21.

We won't even touch the silly idea of a new hire making $100K first year. Not. Happening.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
FANTASY. And by the way, it's not 12 sick days a year AND 9 PTO days. It's ONE day earned per month for a total of 12, OF WHICH 7 can be used for PTO, the remainder of which can ONLY be used for sick. Short version: 12 days, not 21.
And you don't get to use 7 PTO days per year until year 6 I think.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
FANTASY. And by the way, it's not 12 sick days a year AND 9 PTO days. It's ONE day earned per month for a total of 12, OF WHICH 7 can be used for PTO, the remainder of which can ONLY be used for sick. Short version: 12 days, not 21.

We won't even touch the silly idea of a new hire making $100K first year. Not. Happening.
NONBELIEVER!!!!! Drink the damn KoolAid already!
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:26 AM
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How is seniority in new hire class established?
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