OhSnapAF

Well here in lies the issue, people there are tired of getting beat on the road. I think in an effort to pay as little as possible, you are going to see less 91 repos and maybe shorter duty days. I don't think QOL on the road trumps QOL at home, but you should have it both ways. I haven't fatigued at my airline once, and I am pay protected if I do, so there is zero incentive for me to continue to fly tired for money. Now, NJA pilots have every incentive to fly tired and beaten.

As for captains complaining, hell lots of them extend. This won't prevent the ones that extend, from extending.

55555

I’m not tired of getting beaten on the road, I’m tired of not being compensated for it.

So now, when I’m stuck with Capt. Grandpa who fatigues near the end of every tour because he doesn’t need the money anyway, I get screwed out of my much-needed extra pay.

Peloton

FLIGHT PAY NIGHT FLIGHT PAY
NIGHT DUTY PAY
 An hourly rate of $118 will be paid after a pilot, regardless of seat or seniority, has flown in excess of 12.1 hours in his or her current tour.
 Night Flights are operations conducted between 2300L and 0559L based on upon your departure airport.
 TheNightFlightPayrateis$50perhourandwillbepaidin10 th-of- an-hour increments.
 Nightflightpaycompoundswithflightpayandovertime(OT ): Oncea pilot has flown in excess of 12.1 hours in the current tour and worked more than 12 hours in a single duty period, then he or she will be paid $118 per flight hour + $50 night flight pay + OT.
 Night Duty, which is defined as taking place between 2300L and 0759L based on the airport where the duty is scheduled.
 TheNightDutyPayrateis$50perhourandwillbepaidin15-minute increments or quarters; it does not compound with other pay program components.
 Tobeeligible,apilotmustcompleteoneof:1)aflightassi gnment,2) flight asset assignment or 3) reserve assignment during the duty period.
TENTATIVE 2018AA // HIGHLIGHTS DOCUMENT // 2
NIGHT DUTY PAY RESERVE EXCLUSION
END-OF-DUTY PAY
401(K) NON-DISCRETIONARY COMPANY CONTRIBUTION
 Ifapilotisbriefedforreserveathotelattheendofthepre viousduty period, then he or she is not eligible for the override.
 Flightduty,simulatorandgroundtrainingandtravelduty are exempted from eligibility.
 If a pilot is briefed for reserve at hotel at the end of the preceding duty period, then the time spent on reserve at hotel the next day is exempt from the $50 per hour Night Duty Pay premium.
 If,however,apilotreceivesamodifiedbriefafterhisorh ershutdown brief that assigns Reserve at Hotel Duty, then the pilot would be eligible for the $50 Night Duty Pay premium for all duty performed before 0759L or until assigned flight duty.
 The $50 EOD Pay rate will be paid in 15-minute increments or quarters.
 ApilotbecomeseligibleforEODPay10hoursafterhis/hershowtime; the duty location is irrelevant.
 ApilotwillnotreceiveEODPayifheorsheisconductingfli ght operations or has been assigned R2 Duty.
 TheEODPayconceptisintendedtobridgethegapbetweenhou rs10 and 12. As such, EOD Pay eligibility ends once overtime begins.
 For all pilots, 33 percent of all pay earned as part of the Flight & Duty Pay Program will be deposited into a pilot’s 401(k) account as a non- discretionary company contribution. This contribution is separate from the elective deferrals pilots make as individual contributors and separate from the company-matching obligation. This new mechanism represents a major improvement to our 401(k) benefit.
ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS
SIGNING BONUS 401(k)
BASING DURATION
 The signing bonus is the same as that paid out upon the ratification of CBA15: $150 per month up to maximum of $30,000.
 ThebonuswillbepaidoutinJanuary.
 This is the one area in which CBA15 was changed: The current employer-matching contribution percentage has been increased.
 In2019,thematchisincreasedfrom54%to56%.
 Thematchwillbeincreasedbyonepercenteachyearthrough the
duration of the contract, including the extension should NetJets
choose to exercise it.
 Thematch,aspartofthispackage,increasesto63%in2026.
 The current HBA system is available to all pilots on the seniority list as of date of ratification.
 The extension in CBA15 is considered exercised. TENTATIVE 2018AA // HIGHLIGHTS DOCUMENT // 3

SIC WAGE SCALE CONSTRUCTION
 Assuch,thebasewageescalatorshavebeenexecutedand incorporated into the base wage tables.
 Theamendmentpackagegivesmanagementathree-yearextension option.
 Ifmanagementchoosestoexercisetheoption,then:
 basewageswillbeincreasedbynolessthan4%,2%,2%viacos t-
of-living adjustment, beginning in 2024,
 the401(k)matchwillbeincreasedby1%duringeachextensi on
year, and
 theFlightandDutyPayProgramescalatorswillbeincrease d2%
during each of the option years.
 Ifthecompanypostsextraordinaryprofitsintheoptionye arsofthe
contract, the Extraordinary Financial Performance Payment (EFPP) acts as a hedge or insurance policy to protect pilots and compensate them for contributing to the extraordinary financial success of the company.
 Construction of the SIC wage scale now mirrors the PIC scale for large- cabin crews.
 ThelongevitybonusstructureisnowavailabletoallSICs.

OhSnapAF

I think the more likely scenario is you having to argue with a captain on not flying tired, and not writing things up. Some of these dinosaurs already flew tired, kiss fatigue calls goodbye now, it literally pulls money out of everyones pocket to F bomb now. Write ups will decrease until the last leg of a tour of if a crew gives the airplane up, because again, it takes money away from you now if you squawk and down a plane. These pay rates punish you for doing the right thing.

Flyfalcons

I am an FO. FO's and Captains will make the exact same override dollars based on the different triggers. This translates to a much bigger percentage increase for junior pilots. No sneakiness about it.

Guard

I'm just excited to get a confirmed airline ticket from an airport 9 minutes from my house verses having to drive 75 miles to a "base"! Not to mention not having a 3 hour drive each way 5 times a month in DC traffic for a major airline, that's worth $35K to me easy! Plus the latitude is averaging like 25 hours a tour so I think the will be a nice raise!

sherpster

Can any of you guys post the new FO payscales (assuming this passes). I am at a 121 carrier but only went there because I was in the hiring pool so long at NJA I just gave up and started applying other places. I live in Columbus so I am still interested in Netjets if the pay was more.
The 7/7 FO pay at 5yrs is listed as @76K which doesnt came anywhere close to 121 pay regardless of all the listed new bumps (night, OT, etc). Thank you in advance from someone not here to troll from the outside, I am actually interested.

Flyfalcons

Payscales remain unchanged with exception of continued COLA-like adjustments during the contract.

This was found on another forum:

NetJets pilots engaged in a mid-term bargaining effort and got a Tentative Agreement that includes;
-Increases in 401(k) match to 63% over the life of the Agreement
-Creates a Non-Discretionary Contribution 401(k) Mechanism which allows additional funds to be added outside of the 2019 $19,000 IRS Limit
-Keeps Company Paid Health Insurance at Current Level
-Base Pay Increases
-New Flight & Duty Pay Program that pays per tour - if a pilot flies over 12.1 hours in a tour any additional hours flown are paid at $118/flight hour
-Night Flight & Duty Pay Override of $50/hour
All current OT provisions still apply and compound
-Signing Bonus of $150 per month/service up to $30,000

Finny McCool

So for the typical 400 hr a year NJA pilot it's a 20k raise and 10k increase in 401k. I still believe as when I was there that NJA pilots should be compensated second to none, and this still isn't even close. But that's why I left.

If you're happy with it, congratulations.

160to4

Its hardly a 'signing' bonus if its paid over potentially 16 years of service.