Guard

BOBO says he wants it down to 5 years with 85% of all pilots left seat qualified, gives him a lot of flexibility, and after being here a few months I see why he wants that, Even with 27 years in the Air Force I have never seen a more dynamic operation, schedules change hourly. Fleets going north of 500 planes by 2023. As a military guy the schedule here is nuts but if your into it its a lot of fun, makes 121 flying look like a bus driving game! Latitude is insane, autopilot at 400 feet on takeoff to 44,000 feet and then decent to ILS intercept and autopilot off at 200 feet, didn't touch a thing, plane is crazy fun! Good fun place to be as guys are making money now!

OhSnapAF

What’s sad in this post, and is something I have seen a lot uttered in every NJA thread is that “it works for some people”. That’s the best compliment I have seen. Not a single person says they stay because they love it. That they love coming to work each week and that they are treated well, and look forward to spending a career there. It’s always, “ehh it works for me and I’m too old to leave now”. Kinda sad...

727C47

Actually the fact it works for some of us is meant to be a good thing, I enjoy the flying, don’t mind the tours, that you see it as sad is a reflection on you amigo, it wasnt meant to be a hit on NJA , just stating the facts of it, this place isn’t meant for everyone, nor does it work for everyone, but the posters on this site , and these forums in general tend to drift negative on every topic, it’s ok, but the guys and girls (by and large ) that I fly with are a pretty happy group, and we are blessed with the best hiring outlook industry wide in a generation if anybody wants to move onward. The Golden handcuff guys, well I’ll give you that, that is sad, but some senior captains have bolted for UPS, and SWA, so fortunately the guys are able to blast if they want to. I’ve loved my career and every flying job I’ve had ( with one exception that I won’t get into here ) , I’m not hating on NJA , it’s certainly not utopia, but it’s not a miseraba either, God bless , Godspeed, if you are still among our ranks I wish the best for you, ditto if you’ve already moved on. Cheers; )

727C47

[QUOTE=Guard;2796531]BOBO says he wants it down to 5 years with 85% of all pilots left seat qualified, gives him a lot of flexibility, and after being here a few months I see why he wants that, Even with 27 years in the Air Force I have never seen a more dynamic operation, schedules change hourly. Fleets going north of 500 planes by 2023. As a military guy the schedule here is nuts but if your into it its a lot of fun, makes 121 flying look like a bus driving game! Latitude is insane, autopilot at 400 feet on takeoff to 44,000 feet and then decent to ILS intercept and autopilot off at 200 feet, didn't touch a thing, plane is crazy fun! Good fun place to be as guys are making money now)


Outstanding!!!

GeeWizDriver

I’m trying to figure out how autopilot on at 400 feet on takeoff and off at 200 feet on landing is “fun.”

The ONLY “fun” part of this job is hand-flying one of the best corporate jets ever conceived on a ferry leg and never touching the autopilot....

727C47

Is that an SOP on the Lat ? In the mighty XL we hand fly to FL180 before turning on all the late 20th Century Magic , and hand fly a lot of approach’s when the Honeywell and the autopilot aren’t talking to each other ( again !!!) in freight hand flying was king till I got to the 400 and learned to trust the magic , even so there were times we turned everything off including the auto throttles because she was such a sweet touch .

OhSnapAF

Lol autopilot on at 400 feet to FL440 to autopilot off at 200 feet. So you fly a private jet like an airline pilot for less pay and less days off... mmmmk

I suppose I’m weird because I’m 121 and I hand fly to 18,000 and routinely kick off autothrust and all automation in the decent.

So Bono can afford to offset CA/FO ratios to a level that no other company does, yet can’t afford higher salaries during negotiations, that gets another mmmmmmmk.

I’ll add, that NetJets makes the nature of the business, more dynamic than it needs to be. It doesn’t have to be that complicated.

G550Guy

And that would be the Gulfstream! I miss that gal, enjoy every second of it. When it’s over... it’s over.



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Chris99

Don't hold your breath. They've been saying that for years, however their actions show just the opposite. The company often complained about the PIC/SIC ratio since the furlough and was able (in 2015) to change the contact language that made it almost impossible to downgrade captains during periods of furlough. I heard Bobo say during a recurrent class a couple years back that he wants to upgrade everyone in order to show good faith with the pilots, but it would cost the company X millions of dollars so it's a no-go.

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Blueridger

I just think it’s funny how most pilots that are putting down NEtjets lately are those that left a few years ago...... it seems you’re all still vested in this company emotionally as attested by your lingering presence on these threads. Let it go people and move on. Netjets is a changing company attempting to adapt to the changing pilot labor market by making steady improvements. As is just about every other operator out there. All your comments that allude to how it used to be to work there ring rather hollow.

Sure, 121 has its merits, especially in terms of compensation, but I for one don’t miss it that much. I’d much rather enjoy the dynamic operation here then the tedious repetition of sitting hours on end at cruise altitude and hitting the same destinations and using the same facilities over and over and over...... gotta go grab my first class seat on my flight home, and tell my family about the fun times windsurfing in Antigua this week. Sheesh this job drags you down sometimes...

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