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Old 01-07-2019, 01:15 PM
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How is the training process at NJA? Is NJA AQP?

I have an interview coming up, not too concerned about the sim during the interview because hopefully by now I can display a decent set of flying skills, if not I don’t deserve the job imo.
NJA is not AQP. The training department is working to get there. However, they do utilize an exemption to train under part 121. What that boils down to is you get a PC during the first half of the year and a loft during the second half. It is scenario based training derived from ASAP and FOQA data. Don’t expect to practice at KMEM/KJFK for 4 of your sims. You will get to change things up with different profiles and airports.

If you have been through an airline, military, Flight Safety or Simuflite training program and you can play nice in the sandbox you should be able to get through without much stress.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem View Post
How is the training process at NJA? Is NJA AQP?

I have an interview coming up, not too concerned about the sim during the interview because hopefully by now I can display a decent set of flying skills, if not I don’t deserve the job imo.
I didn't find flying skill;s to be the "big" questions at NJA, they are looking for customer service people, as they tell you in indoc they can train you to their standard but they cannot teach you how to be gucci's nice to the owners. Safety first, customer service next!
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:58 PM
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I didn't find flying skill;s to be the "big" questions at NJA, they are looking for customer service people, as they tell you in indoc they can train you to their standard but they cannot teach you how to be gucci's nice to the owners. Safety first, customer service next!
When I did a sim eval it was very strait forward, no surprises at all, and they know you aren't familiar with the sim you are doing the interview in. They just want to see you fly an approach and see some judgement.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:50 PM
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When I did a sim eval it was very strait forward, no surprises at all, and they know you aren't familiar with the sim you are doing the interview in. They just want to see you fly an approach and see some judgement.
Ditto. Now it was 14 years ago, but it was as fair as can be. Citation II sim, you could choose the glass side or the round-dial side. Takeoff, steep turn, hold, ILS, missed approach. Nothing below 200' counted. Hopefully it will still be similar now. Overall, it was the friendliest interview I ever had.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:29 AM
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Guys haveing the most trouble in the Latitude (And Union has put this out that the program is having a higher than normal fail rate) are guys with no glass experience and legacy employees coming off older jets. The Garmin is intuitive but does a lot of things which do and don't always make sense if you don't completely understand them. Auto tuning, suspension and how you set up the box are critical to understand so when something goes sideways (snd it did twice on our type ride) you know how to get back to "basic" green needles and just fly. There were many moments of "WTF is this thing doing" until I just got into the books and learned the system. Worst part is about 50% of the time the instructor is back there scratching their head as well!
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Guys haveing the most trouble in the Latitude (And Union has put this out that the program is having a higher than normal fail rate) are guys with no glass experience and legacy employees coming off older jets. The Garmin is intuitive but does a lot of things which do and don't always make sense if you don't completely understand them. Auto tuning, suspension and how you set up the box are critical to understand so when something goes sideways (snd it did twice on our type ride) you know how to get back to "basic" green needles and just fly. There were many moments of "WTF is this thing doing" until I just got into the books and learned the system. Worst part is about 50% of the time the instructor is back there scratching their head as well!
The guys failing, are guys who call their work iPhones either Blackberrys or pagers still. Dinosaurs who just can’t get it together. If you have an iPhone, you know it’s an iPhone, and you can navigate it with ease, you can fly a Garmin 3000 or 5000 airplane with ease.

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Old 01-08-2019, 06:09 AM
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Not much different than the failure rate of Lat initials from long time NJA employees. At one point it was a 50% washout rate according to somebody in the know. Phenom was similar. You spend long enough in an old airplane, the technology jump is very challenging.
Latitude initial was probably the easiest initial I have ever done. Complete non event, including type. Heck, you even get a check ride warm up session. Anyone can have a hiccup here and there, no doubt, but whoever has major problems getting through an initial this easy should seriously reconsider flying.
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Latitude initial was probably the easiest initial I have ever done. Complete non event, including type. Heck, you even get a check ride warm up session. Anyone can have a hiccup here and there, no doubt, but whoever has major problems getting through an initial this easy should seriously reconsider flying.
Well, a large percentage of captains you’ll fly with, you’ll feel that way about lol.
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8 View Post
Latitude initial was probably the easiest initial I have ever done.
Ha. You should try the CL350, THAT was an easy type. It doesn't really like crosswinds, but geez, I think I studied the Cessna 152 harder than the 350.
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Old 01-08-2019, 01:35 PM
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Default NetJet online application questions please

I was told on the online application that NetJets management automatically reject apps from applicants over age 65 ??

Any truth to this ??

I am FAR 121 retired and would like to get a few more years in before actual retirement.

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