XOJET Questions
05-28-2022, 01:18 PM
#194
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 49
Originally Posted by lifter124
How did they take a step back?
less or no vacation
lower base pay
bonus opportunities if you fly your tail off to an unrealistic level to get the bonus
lower OT pay
Training on days off
basically a shell game with current salary … shifting some of their guaranteed pay into the “maybe you’ll get paid” category.
consider this just a rumor, I’m not there anymore.
3/4 of my Initial class from less than a year ago is gone and that was before the latest shenanigans.
05-28-2022, 02:10 PM
#195
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 76
Originally Posted by LiftVector
I will leave the details for someone current to chime in as but the basics of the new comp package:
less or no vacation
lower base pay
bonus opportunities if you fly your tail off to an unrealistic level to get the bonus
lower OT pay
Training on days off
basically a shell game with current salary … shifting some of their guaranteed pay into the “maybe you’ll get paid” category.
consider this just a rumor, I’m not there anymore.
3/4 of my Initial class from less than a year ago is gone and that was before the latest shenanigans.
less or no vacation
lower base pay
bonus opportunities if you fly your tail off to an unrealistic level to get the bonus
lower OT pay
Training on days off
basically a shell game with current salary … shifting some of their guaranteed pay into the “maybe you’ll get paid” category.
consider this just a rumor, I’m not there anymore.
3/4 of my Initial class from less than a year ago is gone and that was before the latest shenanigans.
Lost my 2 vacations for $400 more a month and if I don't hit the goal of 600 block hours a year that's my pay increase.
05-28-2022, 04:52 PM
#196
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Standing in front of the tank with a shopping bag
Posts: 918
How did this happen?!?!
Originally Posted by LiftVector
I will leave the details for someone current to chime in as but the basics of the new comp package:
less or no vacation
lower base pay
bonus opportunities if you fly your tail off to an unrealistic level to get the bonus
lower OT pay
Training on days off
basically a shell game with current salary … shifting some of their guaranteed pay into the “maybe you’ll get paid” category.
consider this just a rumor, I’m not there anymore.
3/4 of my Initial class from less than a year ago is gone and that was before the latest shenanigans.
less or no vacation
lower base pay
bonus opportunities if you fly your tail off to an unrealistic level to get the bonus
lower OT pay
Training on days off
basically a shell game with current salary … shifting some of their guaranteed pay into the “maybe you’ll get paid” category.
consider this just a rumor, I’m not there anymore.
3/4 of my Initial class from less than a year ago is gone and that was before the latest shenanigans.
So sorry and absolutely shocked to hear this.. How did this happen and couldn’t the Round Table do something to prevent this? Can they fix it or don’t they have the same power they had in 2019 when they released that very professional ALPA/IPA/APA/SWAPA-quality Sustainable Growth Recommendation document? And how can the Company make these cuts in the midst of the biggest hiring boom in history when pilot recruiting and retention is more important than ever?
05-28-2022, 05:17 PM
#197
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by B727DRVR
All,
So sorry and absolutely shocked to hear this.. How did this happen and couldn’t the Round Table do something to prevent this? Can they fix it or don’t they have the same power they had in 2019 when they released that very professional ALPA/IPA/APA/SWAPA-quality Sustainable Growth Recommendation document? And how can the Company make these cuts in the midst of the biggest hiring boom in history when pilot recruiting and retention is more important than ever?
So sorry and absolutely shocked to hear this.. How did this happen and couldn’t the Round Table do something to prevent this? Can they fix it or don’t they have the same power they had in 2019 when they released that very professional ALPA/IPA/APA/SWAPA-quality Sustainable Growth Recommendation document? And how can the Company make these cuts in the midst of the biggest hiring boom in history when pilot recruiting and retention is more important than ever?
05-29-2022, 04:51 AM
#198
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 49
Originally Posted by B727DRVR
All,
So sorry and absolutely shocked to hear this.. How did this happen and couldn’t the Round Table do something to prevent this? Can they fix it or don’t they have the same power they had in 2019 when they released that very professional ALPA/IPA/APA/SWAPA-quality Sustainable Growth Recommendation document? And how can the Company make these cuts in the midst of the biggest hiring boom in history when pilot recruiting and retention is more important than ever?
So sorry and absolutely shocked to hear this.. How did this happen and couldn’t the Round Table do something to prevent this? Can they fix it or don’t they have the same power they had in 2019 when they released that very professional ALPA/IPA/APA/SWAPA-quality Sustainable Growth Recommendation document? And how can the Company make these cuts in the midst of the biggest hiring boom in history when pilot recruiting and retention is more important than ever?
DO departed rapidly, training dept was pushed out and CPO had massive turnover. Both the CL and X fleet CP’s were hired and left the position within 8 months.
top of seniority list and bottom of seniority list seem to be bailing quickly. The top is losing everything they worked for and the bottom has nothing to gain.
05-29-2022, 05:42 AM
#199
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 36
Left that dumpster fire over a year ago and it was the best decision I’ve ever made. Apparently the new pay scale announcement was made yesterday via an “all pilot call” but the official email has yet to be sent. In speaking with the few people I know who are still there, moral is the lowest it’s ever been and the few who were hanging around to see what the new pay scale would look like are definitely bailing now. To echo other comments, it’s hard to believe management is going backwards in a time where pilot hiring/retention is so important. Was told they were parking multiple planes due to lack of crews before the revised pay-scale so can’t imagine what this is going to do. Guess they want pilots with checkride failures and DUIs. Very sad to see what Vista has done to that place.
05-29-2022, 08:07 AM
#200
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 199
I learned of the details of this recently, and it validated my departure. Many saw the direction vista was going, and recognized their mentality, and values. I kind of figured they would change none of the real issues at hand, and instead throw 10k at the pilots to shut up. Never did I think they’d take 10k away, and take vacation away. So sad, it was a great company, and I was glad to have been part of it. Maybe this thread needs closed, and a vista thread needs started.
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