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Old 08-19-2019, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64 View Post
Ha! Fifty pound bin not an option in the back of a CE550B. But then again, a 300 pound PGA golf bag in the back of a Bravo shouldn't be an option either
you should have see what CS made us carry in the back of the Bravo&CJ3....
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Old 08-19-2019, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian View Post
you should have see what CS made us carry in the back of the Bravo&CJ3....
Yep, ex-CS as well
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:12 AM
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I sat plenty of home reserve not getting per diem and a couple hour call out during my 91k career. What was true at one operator isn’t always true at another.
But at least you were home, not in a hotel or a crash pad at your expense.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64 View Post
Yep, ex-CS as well
Just replaced my last pair of Eccos! Where did you end up? (NK)
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But at least you were home, not in a hotel or a crash pad at your expense.
Only because I chose to live in base.
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Just replaced my last pair of Eccos! Where did you end up? (NK)
Went back to AD military.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MOGuy View Post
I’ll respectively disagree with you. NJ, Flex, XO crews on a performance level are doing trips that would make any 121 crews head spin, grab their blanky, and cry for mommy. The skill set, SA, and customer service to be a a captain or FO at one of these places far exceeds anything I ever experienced at the regionals. So not sure the quality is better from a 121. Unfortunately it’s not recognized that way...yet.

If (hopefully when) I make it back to 121 it will literally be a working vacation compared to what I do now.
Have to agree. 91k/135 is way more challenging due to the unpredictability, the varied destinations and the planning involved. Good crews can take a call in MCI for an ASE pickup in two hours for an ASE-SUN run and do it fairly seamlessly.
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:11 AM
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Have to agree. 91k/135 is way more challenging due to the unpredictability, the varied destinations and the planning involved. Good crews can take a call in MCI for an ASE pickup in two hours for an ASE-SUN run and do it fairly seamlessly.
I doubt 135/91 crews are superior. I did both and while 135 was challenging, It was more forgiving. Dropping the brake a minute late will get you a call from the CP in 121. FOQA data is heavily monitored.

121 is flying 3/4/5 legs a day, every day. Every other leg is into somewhere like O'hare, LGA, LAX, EWR, ATL. The 121 interface with the ramp/ops is far more complicated than anything 135 does.

ASE is not difficult in an airplane with the performance a simplicity of a business jet. Going in and out of there in a CRJ is a completely different experience. Airliners also do not seem to be designed with pilots in mind. The flows and procedures are more complicated, even in a similar weight class (Gulfstream vs CRJ).
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:22 PM
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I doubt 135/91 crews are superior. I did both and while 135 was challenging, It was more forgiving. Dropping the brake a minute late will get you a call from the CP in 121. FOQA data is heavily monitored.

121 is flying 3/4/5 legs a day, every day. Every other leg is into somewhere like O'hare, LGA, LAX, EWR, ATL. The 121 interface with the ramp/ops is far more complicated than anything 135 does.

ASE is not difficult in an airplane with the performance a simplicity of a business jet. Going in and out of there in a CRJ is a completely different experience. Airliners also do not seem to be designed with pilots in mind. The flows and procedures are more complicated, even in a similar weight class (Gulfstream vs CRJ).
My 135 Operator is scheduled airline, we fly into DEN LAX DFW PHX and other large airports regularly. On top of that we fly in the middle of challenging weather over the Rockies in Single engine aircraft. We do our own flight, route, fuel planning, all while keeping to a set scheduled time. Perhaps we are the exception, but what we do can be very challenging, some might say more challenging than most* 121 ops.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Joebob21 View Post
My 135 Operator is scheduled airline, we fly into DEN LAX DFW PHX and other large airports regularly. On top of that we fly in the middle of challenging weather over the Rockies in Single engine aircraft. We do our own flight, route, fuel planning, all while keeping to a set scheduled time. Perhaps we are the exception, but what we do can be very challenging, some might say more challenging than most* 121 ops.
You sound like a Boutique guy.
Try 121. It's not easier/harder, just different.
It's silly to compare them.

It's funny you mention those airports. They are probably the easiest airports in the country to operate from.
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