NetJet Pilot fires for being too short?
08-14-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
"Drerup says she is qualified to fly two other Netjets aircraft and should have been given the chance to do so."
Directly from the article. I am assuming that means type rated. Just because the outside is small doesn't mean the cockpit is. Also people that use "women card" tend to misogynist A-holes.
Directly from the article. I am assuming that means type rated. Just because the outside is small doesn't mean the cockpit is. Also people that use "women card" tend to misogynist A-holes.
08-14-2019, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
"Drerup says she is qualified to fly two other Netjets aircraft and should have been given the chance to do so."
Directly from the article. I am assuming that means type rated. Just because the outside is small doesn't mean the cockpit is. Also people that use "women card" tend to misogynist A-holes.
Directly from the article. I am assuming that means type rated. Just because the outside is small doesn't mean the cockpit is. Also people that use "women card" tend to misogynist A-holes.
That's a flat-out lie. She has a Hawker 800 type and some citation types (that NJA does not fly). The Hawker was in disposal and is now gone (see above).
The question still unanswered is "when was it realized that she was too short to operate the Phenom and who came to that decision". (this is working under the assumption that she IS too short to fly the Phenom)
08-14-2019, 02:08 PM
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So she was fired after busting her ride, did not make it to OE.
I wonder how/where she acquired the Phenom type (afterwards for sake of lawsuit?)
I'd venture a guess that it isn't the length of her leg but lack of strength that prevented full rudder usage (especially after flap retraction). Maybe a bigger plane would have been a better choice.
I wonder how/where she acquired the Phenom type (afterwards for sake of lawsuit?)
I'd venture a guess that it isn't the length of her leg but lack of strength that prevented full rudder usage (especially after flap retraction). Maybe a bigger plane would have been a better choice.
08-14-2019, 02:33 PM
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The official complaint names the company AND the Director of Training. Individually. By name. Which they did not spell correctly.....
Gotta love Gloria's attention to detail.
Leaning toward the belief that this claim is utter horse puckey.
Gotta love Gloria's attention to detail.
Leaning toward the belief that this claim is utter horse puckey.
08-14-2019, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
"Drerup says she is qualified to fly two other Netjets aircraft and should have been given the chance to do so."
Directly from the article. I am assuming that means type rated. Just because the outside is small doesn't mean the cockpit is. Also people that use "women card" tend to misogynist A-holes.
Directly from the article. I am assuming that means type rated. Just because the outside is small doesn't mean the cockpit is. Also people that use "women card" tend to misogynist A-holes.
08-14-2019, 06:08 PM
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I know at my airline, we used to fly DC-8’s and there were a few procedures that required a fair bit of strength to perform correctly. Anyone bidding over to that jet had to be able to perform these procedures and if they couldn’t, they were assigned to another aircraft. Pretty straight forward. More than a few females were unable to meet the requirement, or more likely, opted off the jet after they experienced what was required.
08-14-2019, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pugpilot
So she was fired after busting her ride, did not make it to OE.
I wonder how/where she acquired the Phenom type (afterwards for sake of lawsuit?)
I'd venture a guess that it isn't the length of her leg but lack of strength that prevented full rudder usage (especially after flap retraction). Maybe a bigger plane would have been a better choice.
I wonder how/where she acquired the Phenom type (afterwards for sake of lawsuit?)
I'd venture a guess that it isn't the length of her leg but lack of strength that prevented full rudder usage (especially after flap retraction). Maybe a bigger plane would have been a better choice.
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08-15-2019, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OtherGuy
My question would be this: why would anyone who knew they could not pass a checkride submit themselves for one?
They hardly ever do.
08-16-2019, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tm602
I see by your reply that you are the oversensitive victim mentality type, so let me shine a light on something here... She said, in plain English, in her own words, that she was fired because she was a woman. She IS playing the woman card. I know that doesn't fit your mentality which thinks that because I don't fall in line with the weeping left and their crybaby narratives, that I must be a misogynistic A Hole (your words, not mine). So character assassination will not work here on this. People who have worked with her have said she was quite abrasive, usually a self inflicted wound during training. I've seen both NJA and FSI bend over backwards, time and time again to help pilots get through, both male and female. Her claim is BS. And the Phenom cockpit (I fly one) is tiny. I would say with 100% confidence it is smaller than a 500 series Citation (which I am also typed in). The only cockpit I have seen that compares is the BeechJet. Something is fishy in Denmark. And I think there is way more to it than "being female" is why she was fired. If she was unable to reach controls in the Phenom, our smallest cockpit, I fail to see how she would fare better in a larger cockpit.
Saying you are fired for being female =/= playing the woman card. Playing the woman card:
"I don't have to carry the pax bags because I am a girl"
Discrimination:
"I did not get the same opportunities as the guy because I am a girl".
I wasn't there, so I don't know what happened, and if she got fired for performance/attitude no argument from me.
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