AirBear

I agree, but there's no legal way to force them out without someone getting hit with an age discrimination lawsuit or a DFR lawsuit for the union. That's why NetJets tried to get legislation passed with an age limit. I believe the company can order a pilot to see a company selected Doctor to make sure they get a "real" physical, I don't know why they don't take more advantage of that. They could have the pilot come to RGS a day early for the physical.

Starlifter

Packrat,
Your 737 guys first name wasn’t Johnny by any chance? Ferries multiple types, has an Australian or Brit accent...

Packrat

Yeah, that's him. Hard to believe the guy was 78. He was still a pretty sharp pilot...

mooneymite

78? OMG! Obviously greedy and incompetent based solely on his age.
These age discriminators remind me of the queen in Alice in Wonderland:

'Off with his head!' she said, without even looking around.

Only age matters as long as it is an age older than they.

FLT000

The 9 ruin it for the 1.

HappyTrails

Having seen first hand ALL cross sections of the spectrum being in the training department at NJ for years, I can say without a doubt many 65+ year olds were borderline at best. Doesn’t mean all, and doesn’t mean some under 65 were substandard either, but from a standards point of view, trying to remain as objective as possible, there was definitely a performance difference. Most 65+ that I dealt with were actually pretty good routine wise, but it was clear the outside the box, reaction time, sharpness, thinking ahead was most of the time not there, not to mention the technology challenge. Again, let’s not put them all in the same box, because a very few were actually sharper than most younger guys, but it was most definitely the exception not the norm.

njpielot

This is so true. I never really thought about why I don't get wrapped around the axle about where we go. Its cuz I don't care. Yea i prefer Hawaii but sometimes you have to go to TEB as well. Big deal. I just flew with a guy that was literally half insane the day before go home day. Yelling, how are they going to get me home from there. I'm like, dude! they will get you home relax. That schedule will probably change to make it so. He just spent all day worrying about it. The schedule did change and he was home by noon. But your right, this is the type of person that doesn't belong here. He needs structure.

BMEP100

I lurked this thread for a while and find it amusing and sad. The ironies are amusing. The envy, anger and disappointment is sad. There is definitely a huge lack of circumspection in some of the posts from the whiners. And a lot of hubris.

It’s kinda like what I hear when inviting some people to attend church. Sometime I hear people say, “church is full of hypocrites”. To which I answer “we always have room for one more ��

It’s an unfortunate natural human trait to envy someone’s success or good fortune. But remember, while you feel like you live in a dark world, you cannot your candle brighter by snuffing someone else’s out.

My expiration date is fast approaching. My good fortune continues with my health, so I won’t be quitting my first love. (Yeah I soloed before I met my wife). Fractionals don’t sound inviting to me however, so I’ll look for that “hobby” unicorn 91 flying job. It’s true, that if I take that job, I’ll possibly be preventing some young guy with a family to feed, from getting it. But, I left him a place at the big table.

You can bet if I wind up in the right seat of some really nice private jet, with a 75 year old in the left seat, I’ll honor his achievement by being the most supportive F/O I can be- like when I was 30. We’ll have a good time, and be happy.

Some of you guys should lighten up. You’ll be healthier, happier, and maybe you too will make it to old age.

Retractable

Perspective and positive attitude are not universal traits.

viking767

I started this thread back in 2019 and just read through most of it. Pretty interesting even though info is older now, we've had a industry changing pandemic, and the discussion drifted off to a 121 vs. Netjets debate at times.
Not sure if I should start a new thread but will resurrect this one to see if there is some more updated info out there. I now have 2 years to go to retirement instead of 5 and I do see fractionals advertise for retired pilots in various places.
If anyone cares to come up with some more information that could be helpful I would appreciate it.