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Old 09-06-2022, 11:18 AM
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A very good civics lesson in what a group of voters, or people with an emotional cause, can accomplish. I give them credit.
Any highly motivated group. This is exceptional because it was driven by emotion more than money.
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Old 10-04-2022, 08:23 AM
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Seems this thread has drifted a little
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:01 PM
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117 made things worse at 121 carriers. Virtually every day of a trip is 11-13 hours. They build in 3 hour sits at the hub.

The ONLY plus is that it codified fatigue calls and the company can’t touch you when you throw the flag.

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Old 11-08-2022, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AA717driver View Post
117 made things worse at 121 carriers. Virtually every day of a trip is 11-13 hours. They build in 3 hour sits at the hub.

The ONLY plus is that it codified fatigue calls and the company can’t touch you when you throw the flag.

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You must not have worked under the rules before the change, where a heavy crew can see a 30 hour duty day. Try doing that a few times, then complain about 117.
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
You must not have worked under the rules before the change, where a heavy crew can see a 30 hour duty day. Try doing that a few times, then complain about 117.
Or "back in the day" 1990's/early 2000s where it was 24/7 for the whole reserve bank of days.
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Old 11-09-2022, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tm602 View Post
Or "back in the day" 1990's/early 2000s where it was 24/7 for the whole reserve bank of days.

Yup. And the ever-popular “legal to start, legal to finish.”
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Old 01-10-2023, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by G550Guy View Post
You opened this can of worms big mouth....

A 17 year large cabin Captain makes 244,938 working the CC72 schedule (11 days off per month). Add another 15% to that and they make 281,678.

I’m a second year FO at Brown, and I’ve made $232,122 so far this year. I work two 5-day trips per month (19 days off) all international. I’ve picked up 3 trips this year on days off, that’s it.

I’ll finish the year at 250k... within 30k of your highest paid pilot, and AGAIN... I’m a second year FO at a freight company. I get off the airplane within 5 minutes of setting the parking break, and I don’t clean a d@mn thing.

Nevermind the $30,000 I receive in my B plan or the $4200 x YOS I receive in my A plan pension. Or the $25,000 I put in my 401k.

H€ll... my buddy at Spirit who left netjets 5 years ago is pulling down $300,000 as a captain.

You really need to stop, your statements make you look extremely uniformed, and frankly.... quite stupid. You can argue fractional vs 121 vs Corp vs 135 all day long. Each has its pros and cons. But money? Please.... just quit while you’re behind.




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My buddy is at NetJets, as an FO on a mostly domestic aircraft (G-350?). He made $250-280 this year, and didn't work very much. He needs a lot of time off, because he flies a lot of airshows/fly-ins in the summer. He said as Capt, he would have made $100K more, for the same easy schedule.
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Old 01-10-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
My buddy is at NetJets, as an FO on a mostly domestic aircraft (G-350?). He made $250-280 this year, and didn't work very much. He needs a lot of time off, because he flies a lot of airshows/fly-ins in the summer. He said as Capt, he would have made $100K more, for the same easy schedule.
Unnnnnnnnhhhh. I'm sorry, judges? Yeah, there's a flag on that play. If he's an FO and made $250K, he has no bollocks left because he worked them off.

And Netjets doesn't have a Gulfstream 350. There's only about 40 of them out there and Netjets doesn't have a single one of them.
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Old 01-11-2023, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
My buddy is at NetJets, as an FO on a mostly domestic aircraft (G-350?). He made $250-280 this year, and didn't work very much. He needs a lot of time off, because he flies a lot of airshows/fly-ins in the summer. He said as Capt, he would have made $100K more, for the same easy schedule.
To make that much as an FO, he would have had to work non stop. I think your buddy lied to you.
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jkmsr View Post
To make that much as an FO, he would have had to work non stop. I think your buddy lied to you.
I made 265K last year as a Challenger 350 FO. CC72 schedule with an average 1 extended day/mo. It's not that hard to make that money.
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