Retired 121 to fractional
#153
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Position: Lat/Long
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Some perspective...for the original arc of this thread.
I’ve been here long enough to have seen BOTH era’s of former 121 new hires...as most posting here have.
The first wave was in the hiring bubble of ‘99-01. My new hire class was half retired airline/military (more AL). Piggybacked on to that was post 9:11, largely made up of young bucks that thought they’d be back at Midway or ACA then on to Delta within a few years...
The next has been the post age 60 going to 65 rule. I’ve almost exclusively been paired w new hire ex-121 over this last eight months.
This is just my opinion but the difference between the two was the first group didn’t so much look at this as a “hobby”. This was a continuation of a flying career that was cut short by an arbitrary age rule and they felt damn lucky to continue w their career on their terms. Most had children finishing college and the extra 5-7yrs helped grease the skids for them.
The second group falls more into the hobby flying. I say this because most have said so. They’re empty nesters that just don’t want to hang up the headset yet. This is taking nothing away from their skills as all have been fine to fly w. It’s the ancillary duties that do seem to get dropped as others have alluded to. I try to lead by example so they do see how “it’s done”. I hope that rubs off.
This seems like a win win to me. Hire known entities that will only be around for 5-7 yrs (as a rule) then rinse and repeat. The company wanted a 65 rule. I’ve heard 121 may be going to 67? Not sure if the ARC will address an age rule or not but this seems to be where NJA is mining a lot of the new talent. We’ll save the pilot shortage for another thread...
I’ve been here long enough to have seen BOTH era’s of former 121 new hires...as most posting here have.
The first wave was in the hiring bubble of ‘99-01. My new hire class was half retired airline/military (more AL). Piggybacked on to that was post 9:11, largely made up of young bucks that thought they’d be back at Midway or ACA then on to Delta within a few years...
The next has been the post age 60 going to 65 rule. I’ve almost exclusively been paired w new hire ex-121 over this last eight months.
This is just my opinion but the difference between the two was the first group didn’t so much look at this as a “hobby”. This was a continuation of a flying career that was cut short by an arbitrary age rule and they felt damn lucky to continue w their career on their terms. Most had children finishing college and the extra 5-7yrs helped grease the skids for them.
The second group falls more into the hobby flying. I say this because most have said so. They’re empty nesters that just don’t want to hang up the headset yet. This is taking nothing away from their skills as all have been fine to fly w. It’s the ancillary duties that do seem to get dropped as others have alluded to. I try to lead by example so they do see how “it’s done”. I hope that rubs off.
This seems like a win win to me. Hire known entities that will only be around for 5-7 yrs (as a rule) then rinse and repeat. The company wanted a 65 rule. I’ve heard 121 may be going to 67? Not sure if the ARC will address an age rule or not but this seems to be where NJA is mining a lot of the new talent. We’ll save the pilot shortage for another thread...
#155
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 66
Retired 121 to fractional
#159
Speed, Power, Accuracy
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: PIC
Posts: 1,699
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