Retractable

But still you can’t answer the original question.

You deflect and attack.

It definitely means you thought the grass was greener but now... there’s maybe a few of those Kermit the Frog moments where you catch yourself looking out the rainy window.

As for me, I really enjoy what I do and have for some time. I’ve enjoyed a wonderful and rewarding career so far (a mix of every flying out there except military) and I’m looking forward to the remainder. You can attack that feeling of satisfaction all you like but it’s a reflection of the small man in the window.

The personal emptiness your comments reflect is sad really. It shows the value you place in things and status, not people. What a lonely and empty life. NetJets definitely traded up when you resigned.

Balloons

Pay isn’t really that much more complicated than I’m making it in terms of normal compensation structure. I wouldn’t consider selling sick time, PTO or vacation back to the company as a normal thing. Also 40k in overtime pay alone sounds like an outlier but awesome non the less. There are always caveats to pay and yes it’s dynamic but in terms of how your pay is structured it’s schedule, YOS. Yes there is overtime, after midnight, FDP etc. but there are those soft pay options at most airlines as well.

C2078

$40k in OT is about 270 hours. Unless you are doing LOTS of long international duty days in the Global or G, that simply is almost impossible!! That would mean an average of 14 hours EVERY TOUR for a 7/7 person.

jtf560

Global PICs on the 76/8 with lots of "dozing for dollars" international airlines. The A Team is strong in the Global.

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AirBear

As much as I hate to say it I can understand why scheduling uses "A-Teamers" on long Intl trips. When you've got a large cabin jet doing a trip from the other side of the world recovery options are very limited if they call in fatigued or ground the plane over a minor mx issue. Domestic trips can be recovered in a little over an hour usually but the long haul stuff may take the better part of a day. Not saying I approve of this but I understand it.

jtf560

It is still really not fairly distributed to those pilots they know they can rely on. The vast majority of pilots in the fleet have a proven track record and still get skipped over. There have been A Teamers that did screw up big trips but still get way more than their fair share of high paying trips. There are some guys who are diamond or platinum on all the airlines from their dozing for dollars. Those guys are getting over $160 an hour OT and some are well over 200 hours of OT a year. It is usually a captain that gets to be the augmented guy who airlines in or out when they could use 2 captains together for the rest of the trip and airline in or out the single SIC who is getting around half the OT pay per hour and save the company often over $1000 in OT pay. There isn't really anything fair about the A Team and most of the time there are plenty of others who aren't on a list of pilots who would be a known questionable choice to send on a vital trip. I haven't seen or heard anybody admitting to paying off schedulers, but it has been proven in the past and I wouldn't bet that it isn't still going on.

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GeeWizDriver

It's been that way for more than 20 years. And it is very real.

Once upon a time, I had a very senior PIC say to me and the FA "I need $50 from everybody." I asked "what for?" He said "to get a nice gift for H*****r for giving us this great trip." I looked at him for moment, told him he was out of his mind, and went back to the cockpit.

First off, it wasn't that great a trip. Second, I believed then, as now, that any scheduler that accepts a gift from a pilot and any pilot that offers a gift to a scheduler should be fired on the spot. I wish I could have called the BK Ethics Hotline on that occasion but it didn't exist yet.

And that is why I was forever banished from the Bubba Club.

Retractable

Here’s some depressing music to go with your rendition of “why I’m not liked”.

https://youtu.be/APiDVNpLyVU

The Bubba Club never should have existed and has been dead for many years now since NJI was merged to us. You’ll get the full experience when you displace to Longitude.

Love you man but come on... “I’m always the victim”.

jtf560

That is the biggest lie you have told in this thread. I see the bubba club with my own eyes. I've had multiple awesome trips scheduled only to watch my name drop off at the last minute. Each one had at least one long international airline magically disappear from me and according to Flightaware the trips still went as planned. Anyone getting 60+ or whatever extended days a year while others who want them can't get them is in the bubba club also, just a different level.

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Retractable

I wouldn’t know.

My brief is put in front of me and I go fly assuming I can do so safely.

Sounds like you’re postulating a lot of excuses to me. I don’t get a lot of “good trips”. My passport rarely gets used. If I’M “A Team”, why is that?

I guess scheduling has its reasons... and that’s fine. I don’t go running around the inter web screaming about A Team controversy and conspiracy. I fly my schedule if I can.