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Old 12-02-2019, 05:15 PM   #11  
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CC76 base pay is $217k for a MAXED out Captain, meaning you will gone from home 19 days per month on a 6-3, 6-3, 7-5 type of schedule. I for one want my kids to know who I am. If you are single or not married, good option if you live to work.

Add long bonus $8.7k, average of 4 holidays $6k, FDP AVERAGE of $20k, $5k in OT and you arrive at $256k. Some do work extended days, that will put you above 20 days per month. Sometimes you will get a return after midnight, for simplicity round to $260k.

$260k flying a little airplane is most definitely very good! The option is there to make the money if needed, and you WILL work for it! Mind you, again, this is for a topped out Captain. Large cabin Captains make a bit more as well, but you need 20+ years seniority to hold that.

You have to compare Apples to Apples, 401k match is NOT wages. It is part of you compensation package.

People throw around $300k like itís the norm, which is most certainly not. It is doable for sure, but takes A LOT OF WORK!!

Incorrect.

Youíre low.


But itís fine.
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Dead horse clean up on aisle 1.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:49 PM   #13  
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Just sign up for the CC∞


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Old 12-02-2019, 06:52 PM   #14  
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Itís almost comedic how pilots measure their Peters.

Yes, being at the big 3 is essentially one of the highest paying jobs in the country. That is great. But on the other side of that, I donít know too many people outside of aviation who can potentially make 100-200k working 7 on 7 off, while having health coverage paid in full and the ability to take 3 weeks at a time off a few times a year while still getting a paycheck.

I didnít make it passed phase 2 of the NJ interview last year and now at an ACMI carrier. But I would have been happy to have considered NJ as a career, because just 3 years in Iíd be single-handedly making double the local household income for working half the year. I may be gunning for another shot in a few years if I canít get used to this 16-12 ACMI schedule. The majors sounds great as well, except for the commuting and losing days off or living in a big metropolitan area taking my wife away from her support structure while I go fly planes for a living.

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Old 12-02-2019, 07:25 PM   #15  
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Itís almost comedic how pilots measure their Peters.



Yes, being at the big 3 is essentially one of the highest paying jobs in the country. That is great. But on the other side of that, I donít know too many people outside of aviation who can potentially make 100-200k working 7 on 7 off, while having health coverage paid in full and the ability to take 3 weeks at a time off a few times a year while still getting a paycheck.



I didnít make it passed phase 2 of the NJ interview last year and now at an ACMI carrier. But I would have been happy to have considered NJ as a career, because just 3 years in Iíd be single-handedly making double the local household income for working half the year. I may be gunning for another shot in a few years if I canít get used to this 16-12 ACMI schedule. The majors sounds great as well, except for the commuting and losing days off or living in a big metropolitan area taking my wife away from her support structure while I go fly planes for a living.

Fedex or UPS will give you that and MUCH more! The ONLY ACMI that has decent pay and benefits is Kalitta. Several former NJ guys there, the ones I know love it and happy they made the jump, they donít miss NJ at all. One former Union guy left for Spirit last year, was close to upgrade, is sooooo happy he left. The high end/luxury flying always made me uncomfortable from a sustainability/long term viability. The ONLY reason the place was not shut down during the Great Recession was due to BH backstop. You can argue that is exactly the reason to have piece of mind, but Uncle W is going to be under the ground soon, too much uncertainty. I only wish the BEST for my friends that are there, I made a personal decision, as many did, I donít believe 400+ jets for the ultra rich is sustainable. Doesnít mean it is a bad job!!

And by the way, when you see a NJ guy/gal, ask them how the new medical insurance company/plan is working out for them. When I was there they changed three times, this would of been the fourth had I been there.

As far as commuting, Fedex and UPS are a piece of cake, because you almost always commute into the sort. Pax airlines a bit different. At my current job, comparing years of service to NJ, we have hundreds of 10+ year FOís making north of $240k working less than 14 days a month, yes, FOís, cherry picking their schedule, with the same amount of vacation.

Again, for a person that has been at NJ for 10+ years, it is most definitely a good job. But it simply doesnít compare to the big 6 for a new guy, not even in the same solar system.
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Itís almost comedic how pilots measure their Peters.

Yes, being at the big 3 is essentially one of the highest paying jobs in the country. That is great. But on the other side of that, I donít know too many people outside of aviation who can potentially make 100-200k working 7 on 7 off, while having health coverage paid in full and the ability to take 3 weeks at a time off a few times a year while still getting a paycheck.

I didnít make it passed phase 2 of the NJ interview last year and now at an ACMI carrier. But I would have been happy to have considered NJ as a career, because just 3 years in Iíd be single-handedly making double the local household income for working half the year. I may be gunning for another shot in a few years if I canít get used to this 16-12 ACMI schedule. The majors sounds great as well, except for the commuting and losing days off or living in a big metropolitan area taking my wife away from her support structure while I go fly planes for a living.
Comparing an ACMI to a career airline is like comparing a regional to a career airline. Don't base your ACMI as the metric on how bad the airlines are. With a 1 leg commute at a major you could spend 16-17 days off a month working including the commute.

Sorry you got turned down at a job you wanted to work at but NJA life is arduous. I would take NJA over any ACMI with the exception of K4.I have a few friends who left NJA for K4 and are very happy with the move.
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Itís almost comedic how pilots measure their Peters.

Yes, being at the big 3 is essentially one of the highest paying jobs in the country. That is great. But on the other side of that, I donít know too many people outside of aviation who can potentially make 100-200k working 7 on 7 off, while having health coverage paid in full and the ability to take 3 weeks at a time off a few times a year while still getting a paycheck.

I didnít make it passed phase 2 of the NJ interview last year and now at an ACMI carrier. But I would have been happy to have considered NJ as a career, because just 3 years in Iíd be single-handedly making double the local household income for working half the year. I may be gunning for another shot in a few years if I canít get used to this 16-12 ACMI schedule. The majors sounds great as well, except for the commuting and losing days off or living in a big metropolitan area taking my wife away from her support structure while I go fly planes for a living.
The last guy who talked that way got fired.

It is a full-time job.
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The last guy who talked that way got fired.

It is a full-time job.
Must be why a certain celebrity around here, flies so many extra days per month.
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It’s almost comedic how pilots measure their Peters.

Yes, being at the big 3 is essentially one of the highest paying jobs in the country. That is great. But on the other side of that, I don’t know too many people outside of aviation who can potentially make 100-200k working 7 on 7 off, while having health coverage paid in full and the ability to take 3 weeks at a time off a few times a year while still getting a paycheck.

I didn’t make it passed phase 2 of the NJ interview last year and now at an ACMI carrier. But I would have been happy to have considered NJ as a career, because just 3 years in I’d be single-handedly making double the local household income for working half the year. I may be gunning for another shot in a few years if I can’t get used to this 16-12 ACMI schedule. The majors sounds great as well, except for the commuting and losing days off or living in a big metropolitan area taking my wife away from her support structure while I go fly planes for a living.
Shut your mouth you communist

Comparing pilots to garbagemen and starbucks employees?

7 days away from home is equal to 4 weeks of 40 hourly time so 2 14 day periods is equal to 8 weeks of work gone away from fam and friends. Nothing is unearned
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:50 AM   #20  
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Shut your mouth you communist

Comparing pilots to garbagemen and starbucks employees?

7 days away from home is equal to 4 weeks of 40 hourly time so 2 14 day periods is equal to 8 weeks of work gone away from fam and friends. Nothing is unearned
ha ha ha, we are in a privileged profession when we make it to companies like NJA, the 3 Legacy, Fedex/UPS, the majors, way above the average. Making $150K-$250K, full healthcare benefits, superior 401K than the average, working 15 days a month, what a great job we have.
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