Originally Posted by Egliderjet

I disagree. If he is 50, and in less then 5 years will exceed his current pay, and get 10 years at 1.5-3 times what he just posted plus a 401k that is probably closer to 4 million total.....makes you think. Your really gotta not want the money to not be looking for any LCC, ULCC, Cargo, Major, and a couple ACMI companies.


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Originally Posted by BingoBango

Is that average though?
How often is the company handing out bonuses. Flight duty pay can be elusive, certainly an added income but it’s fleet and tour dependent, short tours can forget it. My guess is 35K+ would be an above average FDP, flying well over 600hrs a year?

Originally Posted by AntiPeter

I left NJA after 15 years in my 40s, I figure it will take me 9-12 years to break even. I’m working a lot less than NJA, better QOL and less stress...

But, changing jobs is tough. Moving is tough. Taking a very large pay cut is tough. I debated not doing it, in the end I’m glad I did, but I can see how if someone doesn’t mind the work at NJA, they don’t mind the culture and they don’t want to live in a •junior• airline base then NJA can be a decent gig.

I’d like a airline pilot with a few years seniority to put a breakdown of their income much like the NJA pilot did.

For me, assuming the airlines stay solvent — moving from NJA has been a blessing, but certainly not without a significant amount of stress and uncertainty.

Some of my friends at NJA, even F/Os stay there because it suits them. Fair enough.

Originally Posted by AntiPeter

I’d like a airline pilot with a few years seniority to put a breakdown of their income much like the NJA pilot did.

Originally Posted by ExtendedDays

I think the major problem as a whole, is how we compare compensation in our career. Just as Fixnem2Flyinem stated, people seem to think we work half the year, and that it is so hard to work half the year and make what we make. 300k is a good salary, it is well above the average income, but to me that is irrelevant. Lots of pilots have masters, the vast majority have degrees, and we all have the equivalent training of a doctorate or more. If you look at it along those lines, it isn't magical at all to claim that we work half the year and make more than the average 9-5 stiff.

Breaking it down further, 300k a year for working 19 days a month, comparing that to career aviation companies makes that number start to look less illustrious. Doesn't mean that 300k its self isn't a lot of money, and it isn't something to be proud of, not at all. Hands down, NJA is the highest compensation and QOL 135/91k operator in existence. There are for sure unicorn 91 jobs that pay more and work you less but its harder to get on those jobs than NJA. The problem is having to spend 16 years working 19 days a month to get to 300k. It takes 5-7 years on the 7/7 to crack 100k in salary+FDP as an FO.

Originally Posted by Dustin77327

I’m second year FO on the Phenom on the 7 and 7 and I was at 103,000 at the beginning of November. Do you guys work at netjets or just speculate from thing you hear from the guys that are miserable.

Originally Posted by Finny McCool

I just did a quick check and including PS and B fund I should be within spitting distance of Hydra's pay this year if you include PS and B fund. But that is only as a 3rd to 4th year FO. FO pay goes up another 30 percent from here and Captains pay goes up 92 percent. I'm currently 1300 from the junior Captain out of 10,000.

It's all good either way. For those who enjoy working at NJA it's a good gig. For me, I love my present job. NJA, not so much. The money shouldn't hold anyone back from leaving at almost any age. That is for sure.

Originally Posted by ExtendedDays

I won’t say I’m close to Hydra because I’m not. But as a year 3 FO my compensation table shows 198k as of 10/31. That includes DC 401k and compensation. Not sure why it didn’t update for Nov 30.

Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

Did they "fix the glitch"?

Originally Posted by ExtendedDays

I was there from 2015-2017 and flew the Phenom. That include the IBI signing bonus and PS? Problem is another 6 years on that schedule and your pay will only go up about 16k.