Egliderjet

So you are admitting that you are only in your base 2-3 times a year, the rest of your time is extended days on the road, including vacations.


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ExtendedDays

It's the only way to show a comparable airline salary on APC.

jetlag7

I'm south Florida based... 2018 was a record year for me with 12 work days spent at home.

My ten-year average is half that number.

I can't fairly include 2019 numbers because I spent half of the year at home waiting to start IOE on a new plane.

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shrsailplanes

That’s basically furloughed. Did you get paid sitting at home for 6 months waiting for IOE???

jetlag7

Yes I was still paid base salary every two weeks.

"Half the year" was a figure of speech. I was off the line 4 months total.... One month of training and a 90 day wait for IOE.

Retractable

Far from it.

FedEx and UPS aside, many NetJets pilots happen to be hard working and decently compensated. It all depends how you want to measure the pay at NetJets vs “a major”. Which major is what I’d like to ask, however.

There are FedEx examples... and Alaska examples.

That is a huge comparative difference as well.

DH2time

Maybe that’s why I didn’t fit in at NJA. I wanted to be decently working and highly compensated. The goal IMO of having a job is to make as much money for as little work as possible. More time for the slopes and water....

I can tell ya from experience the majors all, every single one of them, gets paid more for less work than any guy at NJA. Measured by FDP and days away from home. Based on seat and time on property....absolutely guaranteed.

Learflyer

Yeah. We know. It’s a tired argument. It boils down to that the majors are a job, and NJA is a job. Some go to the majors some stay at NJA. Both offer a great lifestyle.

Egliderjet

We are decently compensated. We are not compensated on the level of any major/LCC/ULCC/ACMI when comparing days worked OR hours flying, or heck both.

There are reasons to be at Netjets, but if one of them is to make 300k/year, please don’t listen to Retract.


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AirBear

You won't make as much at NJA that you will at a major. But there's a huge difference in the flying. At a major, you just enter the jet, make a left turn, and that's about it (other than walkaround). You'll see the same 2 dozen or so airports over and over again. Not all airlines are like that but it's pretty common.

At NetJets, it's just 2 pilots and a jet (large cabin jets may have a F/A). You do it all. We do have excellent dispatchers that do our flight planning. But you will stock and clean the jet, load bags, etc. The nice part is you have a lot more interaction with the pax than at an airline. A few times when we've had delays I had some nice conversations with pax. Had a WW2 Vet who founded a chemical company. You should have heard him fussing about President Roosevelt, how he was a damn socialist, etc. Very funny.

But the best part is seeing such a variety of airports. I was there for around 14 years and it was very unusual to fly a 5-7 day tour and not see a new airport. We went into some really out of the way places. One airport we overnighted at was unattended with no chocks. So we had to dig rocks out of a ditch. Ground trans could be sketchy at remote airports. Once in Marfa, TX we had to take the city handicapped van to our hotel 27 miles away in Alpine, TX. The next day we had no way to get back to Marfa. Finally the hotel owner who happened to be in town gave us a ride.

Once we broke in Puerto Rico on December 30th. Got to spend 3 days in a Ritz Carlton resort hotel waiting for parts. Got to enjoy the hotel's New Years Eve fireworks show. Some of the small places you get crappy hotels, but more often you get put up in really nice hotels that run more than $500/night.

Lots of similar stories, too many to mention. Another nice thing about NJA is the 7/7 schedule. You know when you'll be off for the indefinite future. Training events can move the schedule by a few days twice a year. Makes it easy to plan off duty activities. There is no mandatory flying on days off. They can ask, and it pays a lot of extra $$$, but you are free to say no.

Retirement may not be as good as some major's, we get a 57% match to our 401k's. And there's no cap. So if you contribute the max $19,500 in 2020, you'll get $11,115 in matching funds. $14,820 for over age 50 who max it out.

Hotel and Airline points are great. My wife and I flew 1st class CLT-HNL and stayed at a Hilton for a week all on points.

Didn't mean to get this long winded, but you get the idea. Fractional is a very different experience.