FlexJet New Hire Aircraft
#31
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Seeing as they don't usually tell you until it's too late to go back most guys are stuck. Its unfortunate. My advice is save 2 weeks of vacation or something before you fully leave. The Phenis is a good plane to fly, but a terrible aircraft to work in. The seats are the worst I've ever felt. Doing a 4 hour leg literally hurts. Many of the long timers go out on medical for back problems. Think about this.... 60% TURNOVER in the phenom. Average of 16 a month LEAVING the company because of the phenom.
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#32
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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Phenom 300's outside of NetJets have more legroom? NetJets has the larger galley and they moved the cockpit bulkhead up a few inches. That's why so many guys fit test out of NJA Phenom's.
I'm 5'10" with a 30" pants leg length and I still had 1 click left on NJA's Phenom rudder pedals. I had no problem with longer flights, they were pretty rare anyway.
I'm 5'10" with a 30" pants leg length and I still had 1 click left on NJA's Phenom rudder pedals. I had no problem with longer flights, they were pretty rare anyway.
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#33
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Quite often 3.5 to 4.5 was the norm. ASE PBI was a normal run. 4:11 average time. You prayed for the West Coast. 1.5 to 2hr max. You'd often do TEB MIA MIA FRG hop to HPN and HPN APF hope over to RSW min rest thena 3.5 hr to MAD and 2 other legs minimum most likely with a 4 o 5 hr airport sit in the middle which kills your energy. You were 13 to 14h everyday. It was a known contest in the office, rather a badge of honor for them if they could schedule you 13:59 duty day. You fly at Flex, just the Phenis makes it hard on your body 7hrs a day average. The Phenis drivers got WORKED, min rested, and whipped again. It is what it is. Facts are facts. I have no beef, just my experiences. Dining plan is spectacular, but eating cold food sucks day in and day out for CM'S.
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#34
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I don't think I ever went over 4 hours in the Phenom, and just once when I flew the Citation Encore. Longest Phenom flight was MYNN to KMDW, 3:50 I think it was. But we never flew LRC, could have exceeded 4 hours if we did. I met a Flight Options Phenom crew once who said they did just over 5 hours at LRC, Aspen to somewhere in the Caribbean
#35
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Quite often 3.5 to 4.5 was the norm. ASE PBI was a normal run. 4:11 average time. You prayed for the West Coast. 1.5 to 2hr max. You'd often do TEB MIA MIA FRG hop to HPN and HPN APF hope over to RSW min rest thena 3.5 hr to MAD and 2 other legs minimum most likely with a 4 o 5 hr airport sit in the middle which kills your energy. You were 13 to 14h everyday. It was a known contest in the office, rather a badge of honor for them if they could schedule you 13:59 duty day. You fly at Flex, just the Phenis makes it hard on your body 7hrs a day average. The Phenis drivers got WORKED, min rested, and whipped again. It is what it is. Facts are facts. I have no beef, just my experiences. Dining plan is spectacular, but eating cold food sucks day in and day out for CM'S.
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#36
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One of my college roommates just got hired - he’s coming from the 135 world. Any recent trends in assigned aircraft types? I realize it can be random and based on need. If given the option, what do you like about flying the CL300/350 or the Praetor.
Last edited by David Puddy; 08-19-2022 at 04:37 AM.
#37
The one "trend" I noticed in my class: Army rotor guys end up in the Phenom. Also happened to a buddy of mine hired months later from the Apache. Most people hate the jet but he was happier than a pig in s#!t to be flying a fancy, sporty private jet.
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Also can confirm from the previous poster that in my class the rotor guys mostly ended up Nom, same with the regional FOs. Praetor/Challenger went mostly to guys with a good amount of 135 time and military fixed wing time. That was just how it played out in my class though. I've got friends that came from the regionals that ended up on the Challenger and Praetor, also friends that had all 135 time and ended up in the Nom. Once again, YMMV.
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