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Old 05-24-2020, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheMeridian View Post
What are you talking about? I've spent about 30% of my tour days at home. Still getting 100% pay. Still getting the full 401K match. Full benefits. Haven't had to drive because of reduced basing. And so on and so forth. And it's all been paid right on schedule, no promises to pay part of it later.

Look, I really don't care about getting into one of those 'My company is better than yours!' urinating matches. If people are happy where they are, no matter the company, then that's the most important thing. I only comment on this stuff when false information is being spread. We have taken no pay cuts. We've furloughed no one in the US. None of our fleet has been parked and mothballed. And yes, we do lose some clients to competitors, but also see a fair number of boomerang clients (they come back after leaving) as well as simply getting new clients from competitors. For obvious reasons are new aircraft deliveries have been reduced this year, but we're still taking a fair amount of them. And no, we didn't take a penny of taxpayer money to make it all work. This isn't bragging, just putting the facts out there on what's going on.

Deep breaths everyone. Things are picking up and barring any unforeseen bumps in the road we're all going to be okay. Be happy we're not in the bottom 5000 of any airline seniority list. It could be worse for us.
Hard to argue with that and I'm not the biggest company cheerleader...

Well said.
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
Hard to argue with that and I'm not the biggest company cheerleader...

Well said.
Bloody wonderful actually. Cheers out ✊😎
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Old 05-24-2020, 02:53 PM
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You’re off by about 50-80% on your airline seniority list number, but it will be ugliest at carriers with considerable international exposure while ultra high end private travel and budget carriers will be somewhat sheltered due to the nature of their products and or clientele.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO View Post
You’re off by about 50-80% on your airline seniority list number, but it will be ugliest at carriers with considerable international exposure while ultra high end private travel and budget carriers will be somewhat sheltered due to the nature of their products and or clientele.
50-80% in which direction?
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Old 05-24-2020, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FL001 View Post
I’m perfectly happy working 10 days and getting paid for 15 days.

the other fractional yes they didn’t change but you also make 20-30% less if you’re not flying

Just a guess but I believe this guy may have been referring to the extra pay over the 12.1 block hours.
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Old 05-24-2020, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
Just a guess but I believe this guy may have been referring to the extra pay over the 12.1 block hours.
No, the overtime pay over 12 is paid in addition.
If you're called out on a trip for 10 days, you're automatically paid for 15 days, plus overtime, bonuses, and incentives.
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Old 05-24-2020, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
50-80% in which direction?
In the wrong direction supposing his 5000 number means furloughs. Delta looks to be the worst off, and they’re looking at 2500 furloughs. Naturally, there’s a ton of displacements, downgrades, base changes and so on being driven above that number too. And that may be what he was referring to.
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Old 05-25-2020, 06:03 AM
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Anybody know why so many of FlexJet’s planes are unencumbered (no owners)? Are owners bailing out? According to public info the following tails have no owners..
330FX
333FX
362FX
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517FX
518FX
519FX
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522FX
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525FX
528FX
529FX
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightHauler View Post
No, the overtime pay over 12 is paid in addition.
If you're called out on a trip for 10 days, you're automatically paid for 15 days, plus overtime, bonuses, and incentives.
You misunderstand. He is referring to Netjets $118 per hour that they pay each pilot for each hour or portion thereof that they fly over 12.1 hours in a rotation. For example, two pilots on a 7 day rotation fly 25.1 hours. They get their respective daily rates and hourly overtime pay for hours worked over 12 in a day, PLUS EACH PILOT is paid 13x$118=$1534 in addition (25.1-12.1=13). That additional incentive pay is exclusive to Netjets and one of the biggest reasons why they are far and away the leaders in income on our side of aviation.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PW535A View Post
Anybody know why so many of FlexJet’s planes are unencumbered (no owners)? Are owners bailing out? According to public info the following tails have no owners..
330FX
333FX
362FX
400FX
517FX
518FX
519FX
520FX
521FX
522FX
523FX
524FX
525FX
528FX
529FX
551FX
650FX
90FX
93FX
94FX
These may be Corporate Wings? or possibly owned by DAC as planes for the charter company they own? Flying all the charters in house has been a huge boon to us at Flexjet and really helped prevent layoffs. That’s a guess on my part though.
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