Netjets Upgrade Times
09-30-2020, 12:40 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
He has an addiction. He just loves flying. If I were him, I would get a 172 and fly some place for lunch a couple of times a week.
More like he loves abuse. If you love flying, buy a cool plane and go flying lol.
09-30-2020, 04:26 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
My retirement plan includes lots of golf and free time, not yanking gear for a thirty something but I am still on my first wife, only have one paid for house, and no boat.
In the same situation here Seneca.
Live life lean, reap the rewards down the road.
09-30-2020, 06:07 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by MinRest
More like he loves abuse. If you love flying, buy a cool plane and go flying lol.
10-02-2020, 06:22 AM
#14
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While I can't disagree much with the forever FO prognosis for those that are here already, there will likely be much shorter upgrade times in the future with the lack of hiring and ageing pilot demographic. There are currently about 2400 pilots on the list and there is a pretty good chance over 1000 are gone over the next decade now that the money and retirement savings have improved enough for pilots to save enough to escape. I am not saying to rush in, just that while it sucks for the forever FOs, it simply can't be as bad for those hired in the future.
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10-02-2020, 06:44 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by jtf560
While I can't disagree much with the forever FO prognosis for those that are here already, there will likely be much shorter upgrade times in the future with the lack of hiring and ageing pilot demographic. There are currently about 2400 pilots on the list and there is a pretty good chance over 1000 are gone over the next decade now that the money and retirement savings have improved enough for pilots to save enough to escape. I am not saying to rush in, just that while it sucks for the forever FOs, it simply can't be as bad for those hired in the future.
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10-02-2020, 06:53 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by MinRest
I am sure hiring isn't happening, but any talk of downgrades? I can't imagine all those frivolous upgrades they did are feeling too good right about now from a company standpoint.
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10-02-2020, 07:58 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by jtf560
No talk of that whatsoever. The class they are running now for new captains was originally going to be in April I believe. They aren't announcing any more classes, but they are now honoring the captain awards they made in the spring. No way they would do that if they were planning on downgrades. No more LOAs allowed without a good reason also now that flying is picking up quite a bit- 75 to 80% of 2019 numbers now. There are over 1200 new customers this year picking up the slack of those who are choosing to fly less hours than before.
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Now, when that will be depends on so many things and I still don't have a crystal ball.
10-02-2020, 08:08 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
In our business, it is definitely a limiting factor. Not the ONLY factor.
It is also a contributing issue to the slow rebound of airline traffic.
To pretend otherwise is not being realistic.
It is also a contributing issue to the slow rebound of airline traffic.
To pretend otherwise is not being realistic.
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