Jet It
#31
Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Position: Large cabin Bizjet
Posts: 448
Also, according to a friend that flew a HJ for a while, it has poor range/payload/runway numbers. Get used to saying "sorry the broker didn't tell you, but we have to make a fuel stop" and then deal with the hellfire that follows.
In case you can't tell, I don't miss 135 at all....
In case you can't tell, I don't miss 135 at all....
#33
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,294
Also, according to a friend that flew a HJ for a while, it has poor range/payload/runway numbers. Get used to saying "sorry the broker didn't tell you, but we have to make a fuel stop" and then deal with the hellfire that follows.
In case you can't tell, I don't miss 135 at all....
In case you can't tell, I don't miss 135 at all....
#34
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,468
Things are going great! The plane and the company are both Excellent. My experience has been a blast and really fun adventure. Things change fast and continuously as is expected from the nature of the business. Home basing is the model and it is a dream versus fighting the Jumpseat Wars! 8 on and 6 off means we rotate out and back home on the same day each week unless you have a PTO request that changes it. Our rotation days are Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, so out on one of these and back home on the same one the next week. Just like anywhere there will be some long days and short overnights, but there are some short days and very cool overnights like TEX(Telluride) or BOC(Boca Raton) and everything in between! We go to places that the Airlines would literally be shaking in their boots to have to go into! One example is Eleuthera, Bahamas! Look at the runway pic on Airnav.com! Gnarly! The company is going Great financially! 12 airplanes now and 20 by the end of the year on our way to 60. First HondaJet Elite S is coming in a week or so! Don’t forget the announcement of being the first operator of the first all electric commercial airplane in the U.S. as the launch customer of the Bye Aerospace Company in 2025!
#36
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Posts: 4
Average at best
Lot of problems here, and things seem to be getting worse. Heard there are 12 resignations for the month of November. Company boasts about our growth but our pilot numbers have been steady at best while they keep buying planes. Currently they bought a G150 and are offering PIC HA-420 pilots to take a pay cut from 100k to 60k to be SIC on the G150, but the kicker is you're still qualified as PIC on the HA-420 so you agree to fly the G150 when they need you but if they don't you fly PIC at an SIC salary. The other thing is pay raises are locked at 2% per year but they will wait to upgrade you until after your raise goes through so instead of 102k second year pay they give you the raise of 1200, then upgrade you. So direct entry PIC 2nd year at 102, SIC who upgrades 2nd year pay is 101.2k. The list goes on be wary, the training contract is there for a reason, but even with the price tag having 1 year seniority is actually impressive unless you're management.
#37
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,294
Lot of problems here, and things seem to be getting worse. Heard there are 12 resignations for the month of November. Company boasts about our growth but our pilot numbers have been steady at best while they keep buying planes. Currently they bought a G150 and are offering PIC HA-420 pilots to take a pay cut from 100k to 60k to be SIC on the G150, but the kicker is you're still qualified as PIC on the HA-420 so you agree to fly the G150 when they need you but if they don't you fly PIC at an SIC salary. The other thing is pay raises are locked at 2% per year but they will wait to upgrade you until after your raise goes through so instead of 102k second year pay they give you the raise of 1200, then upgrade you. So direct entry PIC 2nd year at 102, SIC who upgrades 2nd year pay is 101.2k. The list goes on be wary, the training contract is there for a reason, but even with the price tag having 1 year seniority is actually impressive unless you're management.
#38
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 12
Stay Clear of Jet It
Things are going great! The plane and the company are both Excellent. My experience has been a blast and really fun adventure. Things change fast and continuously as is expected from the nature of the business. Home basing is the model and it is a dream versus fighting the Jumpseat Wars! 8 on and 6 off means we rotate out and back home on the same day each week unless you have a PTO request that changes it. Our rotation days are Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, so out on one of these and back home on the same one the next week. Just like anywhere there will be some long days and short overnights, but there are some short days and very cool overnights like TEX(Telluride) or BOC(Boca Raton) and everything in between! We go to places that the Airlines would literally be shaking in their boots to have to go into! One example is Eleuthera, Bahamas! Look at the runway pic on Airnav.com! Gnarly! The company is going Great financially! 12 airplanes now and 20 by the end of the year on our way to 60. First HondaJet Elite S is coming in a week or so! Don’t forget the announcement of being the first operator of the first all electric commercial airplane in the U.S. as the launch customer of the Bye Aerospace Company in 2025!
The operation is your typical 135 that’s ran by a bunch of clowns that don’t know what they’re doing. Long days to duty limits (and beyond sometimes), extended onto days off, not always getting paid completely, scheduled flights beyond airplane capability (fuel/weight).
People are jumping ship faster than rats on the Titanic.
This is your typical “Shiny New Jet” recruitment type of operations.
#39
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,294
I know the idiot that wrote this, he’s a clown with some major psychological problems.
The operation is your typical 135 that’s ran by a bunch of clowns that don’t know what they’re doing. Long days to duty limits (and beyond sometimes), extended onto days off, not always getting paid completely, scheduled flights beyond airplane capability (fuel/weight).
People are jumping ship faster than rats on the Titanic.
This is your typical “Shiny New Jet” recruitment type of operations.
The operation is your typical 135 that’s ran by a bunch of clowns that don’t know what they’re doing. Long days to duty limits (and beyond sometimes), extended onto days off, not always getting paid completely, scheduled flights beyond airplane capability (fuel/weight).
People are jumping ship faster than rats on the Titanic.
This is your typical “Shiny New Jet” recruitment type of operations.
#40
Jet It
Things are going great! The plane and the company are both Excellent. My experience has been a blast and really fun adventure. Things change fast and continuously as is expected from the nature of the business. Home basing is the model and it is a dream versus fighting the Jumpseat Wars! 8 on and 6 off means we rotate out and back home on the same day each week unless you have a PTO request that changes it. Our rotation days are Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, so out on one of these and back home on the same one the next week. Just like anywhere there will be some long days and short overnights, but there are some short days and very cool overnights like TEX(Telluride) or BOC(Boca Raton) and everything in between! We go to places that the Airlines would literally be shaking in their boots to have to go into! One example is Eleuthera, Bahamas! Look at the runway pic on Airnav.com! Gnarly! The company is going Great financially! 12 airplanes now and 20 by the end of the year on our way to 60. First HondaJet Elite S is coming in a week or so! Don’t forget the announcement of being the first operator of the first all electric commercial airplane in the U.S. as the launch customer of the Bye Aerospace Company in 2025!
Looks like a pilot with his very first jet job response or it’s a management pilot new to corporate aviation. Hell, could be both. Last time I flew to Boca this month, it was BCT, not BOC.
Interesting post.
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