So Wonwee

After indoc and sims are complete, how soon do you start flying? I saw somewhere that inferred that there were some flights out of CMH before you start flying lines. Is that correct? Is that the next day after you your type check? Or do you head off to your domicile as soon as your sim check is done and start sitting reserve?

jtf560

Currently you will have a 3 day aircraft training event after indoc and sims. The first 2 days are ground school/ walk around training with a real live airplane and the last day (may take longer if aircraft availability is a problem) you will go out and do a couple of landings and a few approaches in your assigned aircraft. They have been trying to phase this out for years, but so far they have not been able to get rid of it. Once you do this, you are eligible for IOE. It could be a matter or a few days or a matter of a half a year before you do IOE- it depends on how backed up the training department is in your fleet. Once you are done with sim and indoc you are expected to go in and out of your domicile from then on. As to if you are on reserve after this it depends on if you have been able to bid a 7 and 7 line yet or chosen to stay on the reserve schedule (all newhires are on reserve schedule until they are eligible to bid - either started IOE or 2 weeks after being done with sim and indoc). If they aren't using you, you are still required to be available for work the same days as you would for whatever schedule you are on, but you typically check in at home on your assigned work days if they don't have any IOE or aircraft training for you to do. I went through relatively fast- done with IOE in less than 3 months from my date of hire while my sim partner (we did sim before indoc) didn't finish IOE for almost 7 months after date of hire.

Jake

"If they aren't using you, you are still required to be available for work the same days as you would for whatever schedule you are on, but you typically check in at home on your assigned work days if they don't have any IOE or aircraft training for you to do."




So a commuter will still need to arrive the night before then find out what's going on the next day. If you will not be doing IOE do we sit in domicile for the 7-8 day period and check every day? While sitting in domicile does the company pay for the hotel and per diem?

Any idea what the IOE schedule looks like for the X in LA? 3 months, 7?

jtf560

If they require you to show at your domicile and you live more than 50 miles away from domicile, they are required to get and pay for your hotel, but only after you have showed up (if you commute in the day before or leave the day after, your hotel will be on your dime). You will be on perdiem since you won't be at home. Most likely they will not make you go to domicile until they are really ready to give you IOE. I have no idea how backed up the X is now, but I am fairly certain they won't hose you by making you sit in a hotel while on duty until you are at least started with IOE.

Jake

Thanks for the info on both threads Jtf560, So Wonwee and I do appreciate it. Paying for a ticket to get to domicile or paying for a crash pad and expenses for a 121 job are probably about the same...I'm excited to get going with NJ's!