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Originally Posted by jtf560 (Post 213929)

The reason is that NetJets requires at least 2500 hours is that more experience typically, but not always, equates to higher levels of safety and NJA sells itself on safety, safety, safety. It's even in the owner's contracts that the pilots have at least 2500 hours. NetJets and the other fractionals fly into all kinds of airports and have a much more varied kind of flying that the airlines. You are always going to new places and experience allows for a higher level of safety when doing this since you have seen similar places and can anticipate potential problems better if you are more experienced. I flew with very low time pilots when I was a captain at the regionals and I saw first hand the lapses in safety that inexperience brings. I'm not saying somebody with low time can't fly the heck out of the airplane, but they just haven't seen as much to make good decisions as consistantly.

The safety issue along with the owners contract at NJA also requires both pilots to be PIC typed.

I've heard of one company CEO, whose company insurance wouldn't let him use any private aircraft unless both pilots had over 5,000 TT. This was the company insurance, not the aircraft insurance.

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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 213878)

These fractionals' minimums make no sense. You can go and fly a jet with 50-70 passengers for a regional ....yet need 2500 hours and an ATP to fly right seat in a business jet....Something is not right with that.

Yes there is something wrong. 500 hour pilots shouldn't be flying 50-70 seat regional jets. 19 seat J31s used to require 2500 hours.

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Originally Posted by NJA Capt (Post 214128)

Yes there is something wrong. 500 hour pilots shouldn't be flying 50-70 seat regional jets. 19 seat J31s used to require 2500 hours.

BINGO!!! And, that is why I won't ever put my family on one! If the flying public only knew, that on some of the Regionals, the guy up front (in the right seat) only had 500TT and the ink (somewhat) dry on his new Temp. Multi Cert. They would have a fit!

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Originally Posted by Tgaug6300 (Post 214249)

We better worry about our national defense then. Navy and Air Force pilots are out defending our country in Mach 2 fighters after a couple of hundred hours.

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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 214706)

We better worry about our national defense then. Navy and Air Force pilots are out defending our country in Mach 2 fighters after a couple of hundred hours.

Please do not confuse accumulation with accomplishment.

To answer the question, the hiring minimums are not set in stone. I got hired by CS with less than required mins. It depends on a lot of factors: pilot supply/demand, type of background/experience, current number of hours, and who you know. I would submit an application if I were you. Even better, try to establish a reputation with them. Find out if they are going to be at any jobs fairs, call them, show interest, etc.

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Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 214706)

We better worry about our national defense then. Navy and Air Force pilots are out defending our country in Mach 2 fighters after a couple of hundred hours.

Now back to off topic... TXpilot, you are comparing apples to oranges. The type of training military pilots receive is quite different than training in the civilian sector. They are trained to operate in an atmosphere far more dynamic than a 121 daily route system. I will give you this though, despite the quality of training, experience is still very important. Mistakes will be made due to lack of experience, but new military pilots always fly with a captain or wingman that has the experience--similar to the civilian world. The problem occurs when the regional airline's experienced personnel move on to bigger and better things. How will this affect the safety record of the regionals when only this new generation of inexperience is left behind? Only time will tell...