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Old 11-28-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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Default New Pilot - looking for Jet rating info

I have just booked my first few hours for my private pilot licence. I would like to be able to fly a small jet. What are the licences I would need to be able to fly a non commercial private jet? Also if someone can give me some personal feedback it would be appreciatted. I understand the more experience you have in many planes the better I also would like to know the fast track.

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Old 11-28-2005, 09:41 AM   #2
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Iceman,

Firstly, welcome to the aviation world - you are in for a SWEET ride! Second, the bare minimum for you to be able to fly a small personal jet is a Private Pilot, Instrument Airplane, Multi-Engine Land. BUT insurance is what makes or breaks guys/gals dreams of owning their own "dream ship." My suggestion, as a CFI, would be to get the whole gambit. (Private, then Instrument, then Commercial SEL, Multi-engine Commercial addon - maybe even become an instructor) The more certificates you hold and the more time you have in your logbook (especially Multi-Engine time) the better chances you are at getting insured. One of my buddies flys a King Air C90 part 91 (you will learn the different types of regs real soon...) and when they originally bought the C90 and had to get insured, some of the insurance companys laughed at my friend on the phone when he wanted to get a policy. But, fortunatly for him, they found a broker that allowed him to fly the C90 with 200 hours of piston multi time. I know 200 hours of ME time seems to be a lot...but in the 'aviation insurance world' it ain't squat. Anyway, I will stop rambling on - I hope this helps! Good luck on your journey to becoming a pilot!

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David,

VLJ's (Very Light Jets) are coming and if you can capitalize around 2 million dollars to fund one, they might be right for you. With limited experience, the opportunity to fly one without owning it will be rare. In general aviation, insurance policies have a strong influence on who can operate the aircraft and those requirements are typically in excess of the FARs.

If you goal is to work for an airline, this board might be a good resource, otherwise check these links:

http://web.nbaa.org/public/news/pr/2...050210-006.php

http://groups.google.com/group/verylightjets
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Wrong board, try flightinfo.com
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If you want to go fast track they do have accellerated flight programs, but you really need to be dedicated and do a lot of studying before hand. Some programs just for reference are:
http://www.atpflightschool.com/
http://www.flightsafetyacademy.com/career/index.php

Depending on which school you use in terms of regulations: 61 vs. 141
will decide how many hours for each rating you obtain. A thing to think about is that the insurance companies will need to see a lot of time in your logbook before they insure you and that is something that you will need to be aware of. In terms of certificates and ratings you will most likely need a commercial license to fly jets: private, ME add on, instrument, then commercial. Good luck with your flying experience!

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Old 11-30-2005, 05:06 PM   #6
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Iceman,

Firstly, welcome to the aviation world - you are in for a SWEET ride! Second, the bare minimum for you to be able to fly a small personal jet is a Private Pilot, Instrument Airplane, Multi-Engine Land. BUT insurance is what makes or breaks guys/gals dreams of owning their own "dream ship." My suggestion, as a CFI, would be to get the whole gambit. (Private, then Instrument, then Commercial SEL, Multi-engine Commercial addon - maybe even become an instructor) The more certificates you hold and the more time you have in your logbook (especially Multi-Engine time) the better chances you are at getting insured. One of my buddies flys a King Air C90 part 91 (you will learn the different types of regs real soon...) and when they originally bought the C90 and had to get insured, some of the insurance companys laughed at my friend on the phone when he wanted to get a policy. But, fortunatly for him, they found a broker that allowed him to fly the C90 with 200 hours of piston multi time. I know 200 hours of ME time seems to be a lot...but in the 'aviation insurance world' it ain't squat. Anyway, I will stop rambling on - I hope this helps! Good luck on your journey to becoming a pilot!

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Thanks for your reply. It was exactly what I was looking for. If your curious I was looking at this little plane www.viperjet.com Tell me what you think of it?
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