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Old 09-21-2007, 08:13 AM
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Are the recent changes to work rules.....

A. Not significant enough to warrant discussion?

B. A secret?

C. Or posting positive things on a pilot message board is forbidden?

Just curious.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:20 AM
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I'll go for d. None of the above. It only pertains to CS pilots.


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Old 09-21-2007, 02:33 PM
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From a relatively new pilot's point of view, I think they are moving in the right direction. I think for the most part, they are going to be getting us home earlier on day 7 and going to try to position the aircraft as much as possible at or near the pilot bases to avoid airlining people. Plus the overtime starting at midnight now versus 3AM will be great.

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They are also shortening the duty day to 8 hours max if we start before 4am and increasing the minimum required rest period after that day to 16 hours. The overtime on day 7 will also be paid if our day (including travel time) exceeds 16 hours. Definately a step in the right direction.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:50 PM
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You might want to check out NetJets, 100 bases and 1st yr FO 7 and 7 base pay will be about $16,000. more than CS 1st yr FO base pay if the IBB passes next month.
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=A...M=&SPEED-GROUN,

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Old 09-23-2007, 11:44 AM
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Yea, but good luck with that actually passing as is and staying the way it's written through the final version next year... we'll see.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:14 PM
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im bettin the IBB language will be voted down next month.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:42 PM
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A new contract for Netjets could only help CS pilots... You guys should be rooting for the new Netjets contract terms because CS will have to bolster your pay/benefits to prevent and exodus to Netjets and to attract quality pilots. It's a winning proposition for you guys too by default......... Fingers crossed!
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg View Post
A new contract for Netjets could only help CS pilots... You guys should be rooting for the new Netjets contract terms because CS will have to bolster your pay/benefits to prevent and exodus to Netjets and to attract quality pilots. It's a winning proposition for you guys too by default......... Fingers crossed!
this is true, but what really needs to happen for the frax industry is for CS, Flex, to surpass a NJA agreement so a leap frog effect can happen. By the other frax only getting close to NJA's contract hurt the frax pilot group.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:04 AM
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Here is Mr. Buffet giving his criteria for selling a buisness. Around the 9 min. mark.
http://www.charlierose.com/shows/200...om-may-10-2007

IMO, trying to strategies against Mr. Buffet may not be a good idea.

Most every fractional pilot that has time with company is making a 6 figure salary working less than 180 days per year. At some point as a group we need to be content.
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