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NJA Capt 01-10-2006 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by dckozak
Those of us on the outside think its just charter getting around the 135 regs to hose crews using part 61?

You meant 91 right?

Fractionals are not charter. Although we can and do operate under part 135. A person off the street cannot just walk up and say "take me to ***." The ONLY passengers are owners in the program or prospective owners on a demo flight. Without getting into details, an owner must choose whether his flights are to be part 91K or 135.

dckozak 01-10-2006 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by NJA Capt
You meant 91 right?

Yea, got my "parts" mixed up:D

OK you guy's are legit, are some fractionals, just working around the regs to keep pilots under 91 when they should be operating under 135 or 121??:eek:

NJA Capt 01-10-2006 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by dckozak
...are some fractionals, just working around the regs to keep pilots under 91 when they should be operating under 135 or 121??

As far as I know, the "major" fractional operators (QS, CW, FX, CS) are all under 135 or 91K now (post 9/11). After 9/11/01 when 135/121 operators were allowed back in the sky, NetJets was the only frac flying at 100%, because we had always been 100% 135 trained and certified.

Going2Baja 02-12-2006 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by eglplt
I was recently in a position this past week where I had to make a choice between NJA and Flexjet. I chose NJA over Flex. If the two of you would like, I still have my pro's and con's list for the two. Good luck. :D

Eagleplt - please add me to your list. Thanks...Baja.

ASACapt 02-13-2006 10:26 AM

I was in the same boat as eglplt and made the same decision. NJA here I come!! Flex appears to be a great company and the HR staff was great as well, but I just was more impressed with NJA. Besides, you cant deny that the contract isnt the best in the industry right now! Good luck to all.

N6724G 02-15-2006 12:10 AM

Ok, I am new here and not an airline pilot. It was hard to get through the acronyms but I think I did it. Why do you want to leave ASA? Thats my dream airline.

ASACapt 02-15-2006 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G
Ok, I am new here and not an airline pilot. It was hard to get through the acronyms but I think I did it. Why do you want to leave ASA? Thats my dream airline.


If I were just getting into aviation and ready to make the move to the regionals then ASA would be my dream job also. I have been in the airlines for 9 years and 6 at ASA. It is time to move on. There is a point where it just doesnt pay enough anymore for the amount of BS that goes with the job. I love flying and the best part of my job at ASA is when the gear is in the well and the door is closed. Once I get on the ground in ATL then the inefficiencies begin. Chalk that up with a difficult commute to DFW and you will have enough reasons to move on. NetJets here I come!!

N6724G 02-15-2006 06:24 AM

I'm not sure if that answered my question or not, but thanks.

ThreeGreens 02-15-2006 12:17 PM

I cannot wait until I have the time to apply........


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