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ERJ135 03-05-2008 08:22 PM

Kudos to NJA on Emergency landing in BVY
 
Nothing like a little excitement at the hometown airport. Here is the link you might have to look a little but, its there. If it doesn't come up its on the right side in the videos. video is titled "Small plane makes an emergency landing"

http://www1.whdh.com/news/main/local/

WAFP 03-05-2008 09:16 PM

Nice job guys. The story lacks some accuracy to it though:)

UCLAbruins 03-06-2008 03:23 AM

Nice job guys. It was a ferry flight, makes things a bit easier, nobody screaming in the back to worry about.

Here's a different take.

http://www.salemnews.com/punews/loca...065234112.html

DamonMeyer 03-06-2008 09:45 AM

What's the deal with the electrical failure - is there normally a cross-tie on Citations to supply power to buses that are powered by the failed engine?

Excel 03-06-2008 01:18 PM

Wow glad everyone is safe!!

I flew an Excel for 4 years and I am very curious about how it appears they lost all electrical power with one engine out.
Maybe they blew a current limiter that isolated the good generator, but the chances of that happening in combination with losing an engine has to be nil. If they were indeed on emer power, they could have had the option to return to battery power at touchdown so they could have use of brakes, anti skid, and tr's. Also, although it is not a cessna procedure, many instructors will advocate that if you are in vfr conditions, you might want to consider starting the apu for electrical power. That of course is done at your own risk and it is the job if the captain to way the circumstances (weather, aircraft location, time till landing, ect) on whether to do that or not.
Just throwing some ideas out there, who knows what kind of malfunctions the airplane was having, and bottom line everyone walked away so I dont want anyone to think Im judging any decisions because I am not. Cant wait to hear the story on this one though, Excels have, for the most part, stayed out of trouble.

Excel 03-06-2008 01:29 PM

For anyone who cares I found a bit more to read on this and it appears that they *might* have had a battery overheat light which is why they would have been in emer power aka no brakes or tr's... Im sure more will come out soon

Navajo31 03-06-2008 06:24 PM

Just a question: If you know that you have no T/R's or brakes, why land at Beverly (5,001 feet) instead of Boston Logan - only 14 miles away?

HoboPilot 03-06-2008 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Navajo31 (Post 335231)
Just a question: If you know that you have no T/R's or brakes, why land at Beverly (5,001 feet) instead of Boston Logan - only 14 miles away?

If you know you're going to blow your tires on landing, do you want to be that guy who shuts down a runway at Logan for several hours?

Obviously you have to take the necessary actions to increase you and your aircraft's odds of survival, but that might not mean necessarily landing at Logan.

I'm not very knowledgeable about the citation XL, so there may have been some other reasons at play also.

Excel 03-06-2008 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by HoboPilot (Post 335292)
If you know you're going to blow your tires on landing, do you want to be that guy who shuts down a runway at Logan for several hours?

Obviously you have to take the necessary actions to increase you and your aircraft's odds of survival, but that might not mean necessarily landing at Logan.

I'm not very knowledgeable about the citation XL, so there may have been some other reasons at play also.

Well for one thing you have pretty much zero directional control when using emer brakes in just about any citation type. I would be looking more at runaway width then length (if you couldnt return to normal bat power for normal t/r and power braking), as long as you have at least about 5,000 feet as that is MORE than enough to stop an Excel at or near sea level... Remember, it has a straight wing so its ref speeds arent that fast.

Bloodhound 03-07-2008 06:26 AM

Not to mention that metal grinding down on pavement is better braking action than anything you will get with tires. Once the rims flat-spot and stop rolling, the aircraft will stop pretty quickly.


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