Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Fractional (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fractional/)
-   -   Current Netjets Lifestyle (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fractional/30050-current-netjets-lifestyle.html)

bull 08-17-2008 12:54 PM

Current Netjets Lifestyle
 
Hey everyone. I was just curious what the NetJets lifestyle is like. I really don't know a whole lot about it, so if anyone could provide some details, I would really appreciate it (ie. what is a typical month like?). Pros and cons would be great. Thanks in advance....

Learflyer 08-17-2008 03:56 PM

You airline guys need to get out of the habit of everything being based on a "month." the fractional experience barely dictates what a typical DAY will bring you, never mind a month.

jmoney 08-17-2008 05:10 PM

Ughhhhh.........WHAT?

Thanks for the complete nonsense reply-much appreciated.

USMCFLYR 08-17-2008 05:15 PM

I think Learflyer was saying that there is not a standard day, much less a standard month, when it comes to fractional flying.

USMCFLYR

Learflyer 08-17-2008 05:31 PM

Hey, what's up USMC. Sorry, that is what I meant. I re-read my post, and it sounds smug......

bull 08-17-2008 06:09 PM

Chill out, dude. I am not even an airline guy. I am an active duty military guy and just had a question. I thought that was what this whole site was about. Anyway, anyone else have any input as to what the "fractional" lifestyle is all about. I am asking about lifestyle, not each daily hop.

Learflyer 08-17-2008 06:44 PM

Well, if you can stand it, most have a 7on, 7off sked. you know you're sked up to a year in advance. At my former frac, we had an 8/7 sked. The 8 days on was brutal, but the 7 off was nice. After about day three or so, you will eventually have to look at the hotel room phone to see which city you are in. you will walk into walls, because you thought you were in the hotel room from yesterday! You'll depart from airports like Cornelius, GA and land in Boston's Logan. You'll have a trip out of JFK going to Ocean Reef Club (a private airfield in MIA area). You'll spend some tours never leaving the hotel room (mx), or other tours never leaving the state of Texas. you'll have some tours where you're crossing the country everyday!

You'll fly celebrities you have never thought you would meet. You'll get yelled at by Martha Stewart one day, and invited to the Tonight Show taping (true story, but not typical) by Emeril the next day. You'll see places on this earth where you will not believe rich folks can actually live there. Sometimes the Beechjet you are flying is loaded up with Junior's stuff to take him away to college. This is also a true story. I spent one day of a rotation going back and forth from Athens, GA, to Peachtree airport in Atlanta moving Thurston's desks, computers, furniture, and books to his school. Expensive moving company!

You'll be appreciated by Michael J. Fox, and told your decision to no go is a wrong one by Dan Quail! you'll drop your keys on the ramp in KBGR, only to find out you have to scale the fence to get them back (locked out 2 am). You'll drop off some rich lady in Americus, Ga and after you takeoff again, you'll hear her calling you on the unicom to "please come back, as I forgot my antique sword in the luggage compartment."

I'll think of others as time passes. I'm only one (former) frac pilot. I hope a bunch of others on here can share a few stories for you!

amaineiac 08-17-2008 08:22 PM

As others have said, there really is no typical day. Some tours you'll work 14 hrs each day and have 10 hrs of rest. Others, you'll spend 4 days in a row in the hotel.

Get into the mindset that they own you from midnight on day 1 to midnight of your last day. After you finish for the day, you'll get briefed for your next days assignment to go from point A to point B only to have your schedule change while you're in rest. When you check your schedule the following day after your rest period, it looks nothing like it did when you went to bed. It isn't uncommon for it to change between flights. You'll land expecting to ferry to HPN, only to find out you're now going somewhere else. If you're the type that needs to know what he's doing well in advance, fractional life isn't for you. And that's OK. Everyone doesn't have to like the same thing.

I don't know what you're background is, but I came from the 121 world and will never go back after being here. You'll work hard, but you're treated very well overall. You'll visit some very interesting places and meet many interesting people.

In a nutshell, lifestyle and QOL are very good here, IMHO.

dojetdriver 08-17-2008 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by bull (Post 445879)
Chill out, dude. I am not even an airline guy. I am an active duty military guy and just had a question. I thought that was what this whole site was about. Anyway, anyone else have any input as to what the "fractional" lifestyle is all about. I am asking about lifestyle, not each daily hop.

I know it may be tedious, but try using the search function. It's been covered many a time. And don't forget, not everything they do is 7 on 7 off.

Crism 08-18-2008 06:33 AM

Lear, that honestly sounds exciting...and you're flying to some places that the airlines can't and meeting all different kinds of people. I'm still weighing my options but I've got a few years to decide what to do. Fractional is looking better and better everyday!

Learflyer 08-18-2008 08:30 AM

you're, right. it is exciting, but remember, 99% of the time, you're going to be flying no name business folks. I.E. Target managers, lawyers, etc. Then all of a sudden there's President Clinton on board. Or Morgan Freeman talking about flying . (he has a private). I hope he's recovering BTW from his car accident.

NZNV 08-18-2008 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 446071)
you're, right. it is exciting, but remember, 99% of the time, you're going to be flying no name business folks. I.E. Target managers, lawyers, etc. Then all of a sudden there's President Clinton on board. Or Morgan Freeman talking about flying . (he has a private). I hope he's recovering BTW from his car accident.

Go to the thread called ?? for those NetJets guys/gals.., I bumped it up so it is easy to find, might be what you arte looking for.

bull 08-18-2008 02:29 PM

Thanks everyone for all of your time. I really appreciate all the insight you've provided. It seems that everyone pretty much enjoys the quality of life issue, which is the info I was looking for. Thanks again. BTW, amaineiac, I am a military instructor in the Beech 400.

Learflyer 08-18-2008 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by bull (Post 446235)
Thanks everyone for all of your time. I really appreciate all the insight you've provided. It seems that everyone pretty much enjoys the quality of life issue, which is the info I was looking for. Thanks again. BTW, amaineiac, I am a military instructor in the Beech 400.

Hey, the T-1! I'm currently a sim/ground instructor on the Beechjet myself! I fly a straight 400, and a 400xp contract once in a while. Talk about a contrast!:)

Sperl0863 08-18-2008 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 445904)
Well, if you can stand it, most have a 7on, 7off sked. you know you're sked up to a year in advance. At my former frac, we had an 8/7 sked. The 8 days on was brutal, but the 7 off was nice. After about day three or so, you will eventually have to look at the hotel room phone to see which city you are in. you will walk into walls, because you thought you were in the hotel room from yesterday! You'll depart from airports like Cornelius, GA and land in Boston's Logan. You'll have a trip out of JFK going to Ocean Reef Club (a private airfield in MIA area). You'll spend some tours never leaving the hotel room (mx), or other tours never leaving the state of Texas. you'll have some tours where you're crossing the country everyday!

You'll fly celebrities you have never thought you would meet. You'll get yelled at by Martha Stewart one day, and invited to the Tonight Show taping (true story, but not typical) by Emeril the next day. You'll see places on this earth where you will not believe rich folks can actually live there. Sometimes the Beechjet you are flying is loaded up with Junior's stuff to take him away to college. This is also a true story. I spent one day of a rotation going back and forth from Athens, GA, to Peachtree airport in Atlanta moving Thurston's desks, computers, furniture, and books to his school. Expensive moving company!

You'll be appreciated by Michael J. Fox, and told your decision to no go is a wrong one by Dan Quail! you'll drop your keys on the ramp in KBGR, only to find out you have to scale the fence to get them back (locked out 2 am). You'll drop off some rich lady in Americus, Ga and after you takeoff again, you'll hear her calling you on the unicom to "please come back, as I forgot my antique sword in the luggage compartment."

I'll think of others as time passes. I'm only one (former) frac pilot. I hope a bunch of others on here can share a few stories for you!

LearFlyer had a great post about a typical day in the life of a NetJets pilot. It really gives us wannabe's something interesting to read. I hope people keep posting more of the same. I know theres prob more of the same on other threads but i think most people have already seen them. Its nice seeing other peoples experiences.

NZNV 08-19-2008 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sperl0863 (Post 446411)
LearFlyer had a great post about a typical day in the life of a NetJets pilot. It really gives us wannabe's something interesting to read. I hope people keep posting more of the same. I know theres prob more of the same on other threads but i think most people have already seen them. Its nice seeing other peoples experiences.

LearFlyer did not work for NetJets. Also I doubt any NetJets pilots will name drop on a public web board because that is a good way to get fired and not to mention completely unprofessional and inappropriate. Our owners pay for privacy and that has to be respected. Please see other threads for a better look into a typical day.

Learflyer 08-19-2008 08:45 AM

Correct. I was going use disclaimer I worked for another frac. So I dropped a few names. All someone has to do is see those people come out of the airplane. Heck, Some celebrities endorse the frac that they belong to.

LukinUp 08-19-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 445904)
Well, if you can stand it, most have a 7on, 7off sked. you know you're sked up to a year in advance. At my former frac, we had an 8/7 sked. The 8 days on was brutal, but the 7 off was nice. After about day three or so, you will eventually have to look at the hotel room phone to see which city you are in. you will walk into walls, because you thought you were in the hotel room from yesterday! You'll depart from airports like Cornelius, GA and land in Boston's Logan. You'll have a trip out of JFK going to Ocean Reef Club (a private airfield in MIA area). You'll spend some tours never leaving the hotel room (mx), or other tours never leaving the state of Texas. you'll have some tours where you're crossing the country everyday!

You'll fly celebrities you have never thought you would meet. You'll get yelled at by Martha Stewart one day, and invited to the Tonight Show taping (true story, but not typical) by Emeril the next day. You'll see places on this earth where you will not believe rich folks can actually live there. Sometimes the Beechjet you are flying is loaded up with Junior's stuff to take him away to college. This is also a true story. I spent one day of a rotation going back and forth from Athens, GA, to Peachtree airport in Atlanta moving Thurston's desks, computers, furniture, and books to his school. Expensive moving company!

You'll be appreciated by Michael J. Fox, and told your decision to no go is a wrong one by Dan Quail! you'll drop your keys on the ramp in KBGR, only to find out you have to scale the fence to get them back (locked out 2 am). You'll drop off some rich lady in Americus, Ga and after you takeoff again, you'll hear her calling you on the unicom to "please come back, as I forgot my antique sword in the luggage compartment."

I'll think of others as time passes. I'm only one (former) frac pilot. I hope a bunch of others on here can share a few stories for you!


lear,

Probably the BEST run-down I've heard of frac flying. Loved it and LMAO! :p About the name dropping, I and probably others took it fully for comedic value and not an invasion of privacy! Still LMAO.

Learflyer 08-19-2008 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by LukinUp (Post 446634)
lear,

Probably the BEST run-down I've heard of frac flying. Loved it and LMAO! :p About the name dropping, I and probably others took it fully for comedic value and not an invasion of privacy! Still LMAO.

Thanks. some of the NJA guys are a little tight in the pants. :p Oh stop, some of my best friends are there! Besides, sometimes we would get trip sheets faxed to us at hotels with their names plastered all over it. One or two of the names I listed was from another job, and the rest are hung on the walls in the flops operations center anyway. Sounds public to me.

CA1900 08-19-2008 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 446643)
Thanks. some of the NJA guys are a little tight in the pants. :p Oh stop, some of my best friends are there! Besides, sometimes we would get trip sheets faxed to us at hotels with their names plastered all over it...

Which is why I never get my brief sheets faxed! You never know whose hands they're going to end up in...

Flying With Tiger - May 2, 2007


Whoops.

Learflyer 08-19-2008 12:01 PM

Thanks, CA. I never said YOU were tight in the pants! :)


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:53 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands