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Old 11-07-2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Do you mean that fleet is highly utilized and therefor you fly alot and by that you mean work harder -or - are you saying that it is harder to fly the X than other fleets?

Best of luck to NJA guys/gals that could be furloughed.

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OH man the X is so hard to fly I am amazed I can even do it!!! All planes are easy to fly with a little training. In the fractional world the bigger the plane the more you work but they all pay the same with few exceptions so I prefer the smallest plane possible but you got plenty of small d#$% that want to fly the biggest plane possible. Oh and all you old farts need to get a life and retire.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Do you mean that fleet is highly utilized and therefor you fly alot and by that you mean work harder -or - are you saying that it is harder to fly the X than other fleets?

Best of luck to NJA guys/gals that could be furloughed.

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I mean you work harder for the same pay. Plus you get to sit in that tiny Cessna cockpit on transcons.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RideandDrive View Post
I mean you work harder for the same pay. Plus you get to sit in that tiny Cessna cockpit on transcons.
I think I understand that you mean longer legs (more fatiguing), harder work prepping/cleaning the aircraft to some extent, more luggage to load, and more people to deal with in the course of your duties. Got it.
I'm sure everything in relative in the cockpit - size wise I've heard that the avionics in the X (e.g. the FMS) isn't the most user friendly; so I would asssume that 'more work' in this respect means means a little more attention/work required to fly from point A to point B - and at speeds that many others can't reach.

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OH man the X is so hard to fly I am amazed I can even do it!!! All planes are easy to fly with a little training.
Do I sense mockery here? All planes are *easy* to fly huh? I hope this is true. I haven't flown many different planes in quite a few years and I *think* I am looking forward to branching out.

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Old 11-07-2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post

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Do I sense mockery here? All planes are *easy* to fly huh? I hope this is true. I haven't flown many different planes in quite a few years and I *think* I am looking forward to branching out.

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agree- even I sometimes have to play with the rudders to keep it on centerline or coming in. husky ftw
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bri85 View Post
agree- even I sometimes have to play with the rudders to keep it on centerline or coming in. husky ftw
Well...I think it is a very nice looking aircraft and I wouldn't mind getting a shot at one someday. The rudder thingies - I'm going to have to get use to using those things again! I hope you are enjoying yourself

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:03 PM
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"Warren Buffett's NetJets is putting 495 of its 3200 pilots on furlough effective January 15, as the Berkshire Hathaway subsidiary continues to cut back in the face of a slowdown in private corporate air travel.

In a statement quoted by Bloomberg, CEO David Sokol says, “This difficult decision resulted from a comprehensive analysis of current and projected flight demand. As we move forward, we will continue to adjust our operations to meet customers’ needs and act in a fiscally responsible manner."

Sokol, the Chairman of Berkshire's MidAmerican Energy Holdings, assumed the NetJets CEO job last August after founder Richard Santulli abruptly resigned.

In September, Columbus, Ohio-based NetJets announced plans to cut roughly 350 non-pilot jobs by the end of the year."
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Do I sense mockery here? All planes are *easy* to fly huh? I hope this is true. I haven't flown many different planes in quite a few years and I *think* I am looking forward to branching out.

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USMCFLYR, I apologize for being a smarta$$. Kind of emotional time for us guys at the bottom right now. In the fractional world under the owner contracts a bigger plane can cover a smaller plane's trip but not the other way around. So the BBJ can cover a Beechjet trip but obviously a beechjet cannot cover a BBJ trip so by this method the bigger the plane the more trips you can cover so you work more. Trust me your FA-18 is way more fun than any plane you will fly in the civilian world and better job security. We have quite a few guys here at NJ that wish they were back in the military (and some are getting back in) Most of us are hoping we can better our lives enough in the next 5 years to not have to take a callback to NJ.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy37 View Post
USMCFLYR, I apologize for being a smarta$$. Kind of emotional time for us guys at the bottom right now. In the fractional world under the owner contracts a bigger plane can cover a smaller plane's trip but not the other way around. So the BBJ can cover a Beechjet trip but obviously a beechjet cannot cover a BBJ trip so by this method the bigger the plane the more trips you can cover so you work more. Trust me your FA-18 is way more fun than any plane you will fly in the civilian world and better job security. We have quite a few guys here at NJ that wish they were back in the military (and some are getting back in) Most of us are hoping we can better our lives enough in the next 5 years to not have to take a callback to NJ.
Thanks for the apology but it wasn't required. I was seriously asking if you were making fun or if you were serious. I know it is a tough time for all the furloughed pilots and the ones in danger of being furloughed. I found out a little less than a year ago that some former squadronmates were now flying at NJA. I don't know where they sit in th numbers game but I'm hoping the best for them and their families - just as I do for you and yours. I'm in the job hunt myself right now too and the pickings are slim (to none it seems) no doubt. Best of luck.

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Old 11-08-2009, 08:05 AM
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Hope something picks up for the pilots furloughed. You're in our prayers.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by UCLAbruins View Post
It was obvious we had to furlough, there was no way around it. I didn't want to talk about numbers because we didn't know how many until today when it became public.....yes 495 is the number


Does this leave Fedex, UPS and Southwest as the only major American companies with no pilot furlougs?
JetBlue hasn't furloughed.
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