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sharkbait 09-04-2010 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by dudemize (Post 864917)
If I were forced onto a 14/14 schedule I would be handing in my resignation paperwork shortly thereafter. 7/7 works fine for me. Any longer than that is too much!

That's the plan.

Ski Patrol 09-06-2010 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 864186)
Two weeks is a LONG time to be on the road, away from family.

Sure you'd get two weeks off on the back end...but if you've got children does that make up for it?

The answer is no.

socalflyboy 09-07-2010 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by celloman (Post 864210)
Ok I am going to clear the air up as much as I can.

1) The original concern about the schedule came when an email went out asking pilots if they thought they would be able to do an 8/6 or 14/14. This turned into tons of speculation on the pilots part. (each choice either had extra pay or some type of incentive added.) This email was just to find out how many might be able to.

2) The CEO asked the pilots last night to consider 14/14. There is no forcing of pilots to do this.

3) There will be incentives if you decide to switch to 14/14. At this point we dont know what they are and can only speculate.

It is my understanding at this time it will only be for a year comitment.


-celloman

That would be one long *** year for me!!!!!:eek:

trxline 09-07-2010 05:47 AM

As everyone already knows, once you give up QOL in avaition, it's gone forever.
Any ripple at a company, and its time for the pilots to give it up!

What is the CEO and Upper Management doing?

FlyGirl63 09-07-2010 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by BeenThereDoneIt (Post 866961)
In the conference call last week between the CEO and the pilots, the CEO (who just got a 100% pay raise) asked 1/3 of the pilots to volunteer to go to a 14/14 schedule to save the company money. It is my "understanding" that all new hires go to 14/14 regardless. Where are all the Avant guys that usually defend their company?

I think the morale is pretty low right now. It has been a great company to work for, but has turned into an understaffed nightmare for all employees due to growth. And Avantair reports they expect to double the aircraft fleet in another four years or so. Long hours of flying max time with short turnarounds and sometimes forced into overtime, as it is. The pilots are restless, PAC is working with mgmt. to get some concessions and 14/14 seems the only/best alternative to achieve the company's financial goals. QOL will suffer and marriages will likely end with the stressful schedule. The 14 days off does not make up for those gone when you have a family.

MNPS 50N50W 09-08-2010 10:18 AM

This is the problem with companies these days. The CEO gets a big pay raise, then ask the employees to work harder for less....

Then there are Pilots that feel the need to move on to bigger and better companies, ie more money in their pockets, ie supply and demand.

They have gotten away way too long paying low wages, for high quality work.

PAY UP OR I'M LEAVING.....

BeenThereDoneIt 09-08-2010 12:43 PM

The sad part is that the PAC Board seems to be very proud of this. Maybe all 5 of them are volunteering for 14 on/14 off. Naaaaaaaa.......:D

BeenThereDoneIt 09-10-2010 07:58 PM

It appears that the 14 on / 14 off fiasco at Avantair has been scrubbed thanks to the pilot group's overwhelming rejection of the idea. They said NO to the PAC Board and management. Good for you guys. Your families will appreciate you choosing them over the ideas of the PAC and CEO.

Triggs 09-11-2010 08:34 AM

So much anger for someone who doesn't work there

BeenThereDoneIt 09-11-2010 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Triggs (Post 869100)
So much anger for someone who doesn't work there

LOLOL.......if you only knew how many of them thanked me for posting since their jobs would be in jeapordy if they did. Besides....you didn't volunteer for the 14/14 either. You wanted the "other guys" to do it. They ratted you out dude.


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