Scheduling troubles at Avantair?
11-01-2010, 07:53 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by T56Maniac
Thanks for taking my response out of context Flex81. And I never said that I would do the job for cheaper. I was simply making a statement that if the company is hiring (supply and demand) that I would be glad to be part of that growth. 
11-01-2010, 11:01 AM
#82
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Originally Posted by BeenThereDoneIt
Flampard.....I agree with their senior PAC Member who said in his e-mail to the pilot group that this new schedule was a PAY CUT and he doesn't support it. Have any other fractionals had PAY CUTS? I know some had furloughs.
11-01-2010, 12:16 PM
#83
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Topgun, let me try to explain it.
In September Avantair would pay you 150% of the daily rate for working on Day 8. That equates to paying you for 36 hours on Day 8. Not bad.
In late October Avantair will only pay you 100% of the daily rate for working on Day 8. That equates to paying you for only 24 hours on Day 8, which equates to a 1/3 CUT IN PAY on Day 8. To make matters worse, they will only pay you for the full 24 hour daily rate IF you fly or get scheduled on a Piaggio at least once on that day. If they simply send you home on Day 8, your hours stop as soon as you get to your domicile. In September that wasn't the case. You got the full day's pay at 150% in September.
Surely you get this......
In September Avantair would pay you 150% of the daily rate for working on Day 8. That equates to paying you for 36 hours on Day 8. Not bad.
In late October Avantair will only pay you 100% of the daily rate for working on Day 8. That equates to paying you for only 24 hours on Day 8, which equates to a 1/3 CUT IN PAY on Day 8. To make matters worse, they will only pay you for the full 24 hour daily rate IF you fly or get scheduled on a Piaggio at least once on that day. If they simply send you home on Day 8, your hours stop as soon as you get to your domicile. In September that wasn't the case. You got the full day's pay at 150% in September.
Surely you get this......
11-01-2010, 06:48 PM
#85
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Originally Posted by topgun53590
This is only true if you always worked day 8 before the date you said. However for most of the people that didn't work at all on day eight it is a raise.
Ok then........Avantair was able to give its pilots a RAISE during this recession. Excellent news!
11-02-2010, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by topgun53590
This is only true if you always worked day 8 before the date you said. However for most of the people that didn't work at all on day eight it is a raise.
Sounds like management talk to me.
A RAISE!! Give it a break!
11-02-2010, 07:32 AM
#88
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A factory employee works a 40 hour week for $9 per hour... he makes $360 per week.
If he works a 50 hour week for $8/hr, he makes $400 per week. This is still a pay cut because he is getting paid less for his time.
If he works 50 hours at his original $9 per hour, he makes $450 per week. This is not a pay raise nor a pay cut. He is working more hours for the same pay.
So here is the question for you Avantair pilots: is your hourly or daily average pay going up, down, or staying the same as a result of this change?
If he works a 50 hour week for $8/hr, he makes $400 per week. This is still a pay cut because he is getting paid less for his time.
If he works 50 hours at his original $9 per hour, he makes $450 per week. This is not a pay raise nor a pay cut. He is working more hours for the same pay.
So here is the question for you Avantair pilots: is your hourly or daily average pay going up, down, or staying the same as a result of this change?
11-02-2010, 07:54 AM
#89
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Flex, their 8th Day Pay fell from 150% down to 100%....a 1/3 PAY CUT.
Day 8 now becomes regular DAILY PAY.......unless you are simply sent home during that shift without being scheduled on a company aircraft. In that case, your DAILY PAY now drops to HOURLY PAY, yet another PAY CUT.
In both of these cases, Avantair is cutting pay for its pilots.
Day 8 now becomes regular DAILY PAY.......unless you are simply sent home during that shift without being scheduled on a company aircraft. In that case, your DAILY PAY now drops to HOURLY PAY, yet another PAY CUT.
In both of these cases, Avantair is cutting pay for its pilots.
11-04-2010, 10:16 AM
#90
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Originally Posted by BeenThereDoneIt
Flex, their 8th Day Pay fell from 150% down to 100%....a 1/3 PAY CUT.
Day 8 now becomes regular DAILY PAY.......unless you are simply sent home during that shift without being scheduled on a company aircraft. In that case, your DAILY PAY now drops to HOURLY PAY, yet another PAY CUT.
Day 8 now becomes regular DAILY PAY.......unless you are simply sent home during that shift without being scheduled on a company aircraft. In that case, your DAILY PAY now drops to HOURLY PAY, yet another PAY CUT.
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