Scheduling troubles at Avantair?
#41
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 2
8 and 6 it is...
Management unilaterally decided to implement an 8-on/6-off schedule for all pilots. The PAC doesn't support or agree with the decision. Base pay remains the same (no pay increase) with (as I understand it) regular hourly pay beginning at 4 a.m. on 8th day until you reach your base/domicile.
The only upside I see from the new forced schedule is that senior captains who have enjoyed big bucks volunteering for OT will no longer be relatively compensed. This may discourage them from taking on the extra work and will result in the company coming to terms with a realistic picture of the actual supply and demand. They need to hire more pilots to fly the line rather than scrambling at the last minute and paying out huge sums in OT to cover the line.
The only upside I see from the new forced schedule is that senior captains who have enjoyed big bucks volunteering for OT will no longer be relatively compensed. This may discourage them from taking on the extra work and will result in the company coming to terms with a realistic picture of the actual supply and demand. They need to hire more pilots to fly the line rather than scrambling at the last minute and paying out huge sums in OT to cover the line.
#42
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 29
Management unilaterally decided to implement an 8-on/6-off schedule for all pilots. The PAC doesn't support or agree with the decision. Base pay remains the same (no pay increase) with (as I understand it) regular hourly pay beginning at 4 a.m. on 8th day until you reach your base/domicile.
The only upside I see from the new forced schedule is that senior captains who have enjoyed big bucks volunteering for OT will no longer be relatively compensed. This may discourage them from taking on the extra work and will result in the company coming to terms with a realistic picture of the actual supply and demand. They need to hire more pilots to fly the line rather than scrambling at the last minute and paying out huge sums in OT to cover the line.
The only upside I see from the new forced schedule is that senior captains who have enjoyed big bucks volunteering for OT will no longer be relatively compensed. This may discourage them from taking on the extra work and will result in the company coming to terms with a realistic picture of the actual supply and demand. They need to hire more pilots to fly the line rather than scrambling at the last minute and paying out huge sums in OT to cover the line.
#43
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: FO
Posts: 247
It is people like this that give management the leverage to do whatever they want with your schedules and pay. There is always someone willing to do your job for cheaper.
Avantair folks: What cuts has management taken? If the CEO makes what Beentheredoneit says he does, then he makes way too much for a company that is still in the red.
Making the pilots work an extra day with no pay raise... I call that a pay cut. You NEED to start a union drive. Even if you don't want a union, management will likely be more receptive to the pilot groups' requests. Look at Allegiant as an example example.
Avantair folks: What cuts has management taken? If the CEO makes what Beentheredoneit says he does, then he makes way too much for a company that is still in the red.
Making the pilots work an extra day with no pay raise... I call that a pay cut. You NEED to start a union drive. Even if you don't want a union, management will likely be more receptive to the pilot groups' requests. Look at Allegiant as an example example.
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 450
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#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: FO
Posts: 247
Management unilaterally decided to implement an 8-on/6-off schedule for all pilots. The PAC doesn't support or agree with the decision. Base pay remains the same (no pay increase) with (as I understand it) regular hourly pay beginning at 4 a.m. on 8th day until you reach your base/domicile.
The only upside I see from the new forced schedule is that senior captains who have enjoyed big bucks volunteering for OT will no longer be relatively compensed. This may discourage them from taking on the extra work and will result in the company coming to terms with a realistic picture of the actual supply and demand. They need to hire more pilots to fly the line rather than scrambling at the last minute and paying out huge sums in OT to cover the line.
The only upside I see from the new forced schedule is that senior captains who have enjoyed big bucks volunteering for OT will no longer be relatively compensed. This may discourage them from taking on the extra work and will result in the company coming to terms with a realistic picture of the actual supply and demand. They need to hire more pilots to fly the line rather than scrambling at the last minute and paying out huge sums in OT to cover the line.
So you are saying that if you get home at 10:00 pm on day 8, you get paid 6 hours for that day? That's only 25% of your daily rate and you are working all day! Not to mention that you used to get OT for that. I'm not sure what that rate is, but the math will come out to less that %25 obviously.
If I were a Captain there, I would make sure to write up Mx discrepancies right away when they break (instead of carrying them to your Mx bases).
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: FO
Posts: 247
Yeah, it would be tough to get it done and not let the company know who is for and who is against the union. They would surely try to get rid of the pro-union folks using any means possible.
#47
Banned
Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 158
Several pilots have contacted me and given me the latest scoop there:
They say that several people have quit in the past few days (with more coming) since the forced implementation of their new 8/6 schedule. I’m told that nearly half a dozen fewer pilots fly for them today then they had two weeks. It amazes me that pilots are resigning from Avantair in this economy.
Management THANKED the pilots and PAC for their participation in the new schedule process, meanwhile the PAC says they weren't even consuulted about it, they oppose it, and had nothing to do with it. Someone is lying....LOL
The company is now so short on pilots that they are sending out multiple e-mails begging for pilots to work extra days. It doesn't sound like there are many takers.
They say that several people have quit in the past few days (with more coming) since the forced implementation of their new 8/6 schedule. I’m told that nearly half a dozen fewer pilots fly for them today then they had two weeks. It amazes me that pilots are resigning from Avantair in this economy.
Management THANKED the pilots and PAC for their participation in the new schedule process, meanwhile the PAC says they weren't even consuulted about it, they oppose it, and had nothing to do with it. Someone is lying....LOL
The company is now so short on pilots that they are sending out multiple e-mails begging for pilots to work extra days. It doesn't sound like there are many takers.
#49
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 37
I have worked here for years and after checking around I found out that the posted info is incorrect concerning the number of pilots leaving, the PAC (Pilot Advisory Committee) not being involved in the process, the number of emails that went out, the intent of that email and the response to the email.
Has any one seen an obsessed angry and obviously disgruntled ex-employee who may still be carrying a grudge about the fact that he did not get an upgrade at his 1 year recurrent anywhere on this website?
Has any one seen an obsessed angry and obviously disgruntled ex-employee who may still be carrying a grudge about the fact that he did not get an upgrade at his 1 year recurrent anywhere on this website?
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