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UConnQB14 08-29-2006 01:35 PM

Midair Crash
 
just saw the news clip of a Hawker 800XP hitting the wing of a glider out in Carson City... jet was apparently at 16,000 doing 450 KIAS when it struck the wing of the glider that was climbing. Obviously no transponder hit on the glider.

all survived, but with wet pants in the front. the glider pilot had a parachute and the female pilot of the hawker went gear up.. pics are on Airliners.net forum.. NetJets bird

Photon 08-29-2006 01:42 PM

direct link to images? that forum was huge :(

FlyerJosh 08-29-2006 02:03 PM

Picture:

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/mi...rt&cachetime=0

iflyjets4food 08-29-2006 03:30 PM

Geez, right up by the cockpit too....I bet it scared the hell out of the crew having something hit that close to the cockpit.

iflyjets4food 08-29-2006 03:32 PM

Just out of curiosity, why would the jet need to land gear up? Was it concern about changing the configuration without knowing what it would do to aerodynamics?

Zach 08-29-2006 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by iflyjets4food (Post 56779)
Just out of curiosity, why would the jet need to land gear up? Was it concern about changing the configuration without knowing what it would do to aerodynamics?

The nose gear doors come up pretty far on the nose. The collision may have messed something up with them or the hydraulic system I would imagine.

UConnQB14 08-29-2006 04:45 PM

i fly the XP now and the nose gear does in fact come up that far... the other thing, with an impact like that, you can not assure yourself that the girl didnt fall apart. if you lower the gear, it may just fall right out of the airplane, but still indicate a "down and locked" position.. never had the situation happen, so dont know the procedure for sure

love2fly 08-29-2006 06:26 PM

UConn QB, did I ever tell you how gay you are? Really.

flynavyj 08-29-2006 07:14 PM

uconn, would you be so kind as to explain how the gear and gear indication system on the hawker operate? Just outta curiosity.

UConnQB14 08-30-2006 04:13 AM

first things first: love2fly, you have some serious issues and if you care to address them in person, im all for it.. it would be a bad decision for you and over really quick

secondly, in regards to the hawker... like most retractables, the gear is hydraulically actuated and a crash like this has the potential to screw up that system. secondly, the dual nosewheel's steering system is also on the hydraulic system. judging by the force of the crash, there is a high probability of damage to that system. my guess is that it is not smart to land an airplane with no steering

for further inquiries, go to flightsafety.com, sign yourself up for a course, and you can ask your instructor.. my suggestion is to ask Kevin at FSI in Wilmington, DE


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