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Old 09-29-2017, 08:44 AM
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Thx for your input. I am thinking about leaving a company with 10 years seniority and the thought of being at the bottom of a list seems a bit daunting. Something for me to think over.

Once again, thanks for the info.

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Old 09-29-2017, 04:22 PM
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Does XO send out notifications indicating if you are being considered or not being considered for employment?

How long does the process take to get notified after submitting online app.?
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:10 PM
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Does XO send out notifications indicating if you are being considered or not being considered for employment?

How long does the process take to get notified after submitting online app.?
If you go to the automated email they sent you verifying they received your app there is a link at the bottom of it that connects you to a service called Jobvite where once you register you'll be able to see the status of your application. I've been sitting on "In Process" for 2 months now, while someone else had "Not Selected" as the status so I'm not sure what "In Process" means as I haven't had any other communications from XOJ since first submitting my application at the end of July.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:31 PM
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On an 8 day you may not fly on the first and last days if it took a good chunk your duty day to get you there. If all it took to get you to/from work was a Lyft/Taxi then you will probably fly right away or till you go home. Days in the middle are usually (as much as you can use that word) one revenue leg and one re positioning leg. Anything within legality is possible though but anything more than 3 legs is very rare. I think I do max duty/min rest maybe 3 times a month? It's not common but it happens when wx/mx/atc get crazy. Coming home is super easy. They buy you a ticket, you get on and if you arrive past 10pm then they pay up. I'm pretty sure commute home counts towards duty limitations. I've never arrived home past my duty time so tbh I'm not really sure if it's something they do.

As far as furlough goes I'm 80% sure it's by reverse seniority. But who cares anymore? The majors are hiring like crazy and if they need less pilots all they would have to do is stop hiring not furlough.
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Old 09-30-2017, 05:05 AM
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More than 3 legs is rare? I want to fly with you!
Must be a 300 guy.
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Old 09-30-2017, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer View Post
Must be a 300 guy.
Ha! No it's def a X...gotta be with those dinos.

Last rotation was at least 7hrs day flying for me.

In reality it's lucknof the draw how much you fly.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:57 AM
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I know w/ XO, you don't get non-rev benefits like in 121.. however I know you keep the airline miles/points and hotel points while on your work rotation.
Just wondering - because I've never had experience with this sort of thing; how many airline miles do you need to get a free ticket?
I guess what Im asking is.. I live in place A.. my parents live in place B which is 2000 miles away… w/ 121 I jump on a flight w/open seats.. with XO, I'd have to pay to visit… but how often would I accumulate enough points/miles to get a free or reduced fare?

Also.. didn't XO used to fly trans-Atlantic?? any chance they'd go back to doing that or will they just farm it out from now on?
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Old 10-19-2017, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX View Post
I know w/ XO, you don't get non-rev benefits like in 121.. however I know you keep the airline miles/points and hotel points while on your work rotation.
Just wondering - because I've never had experience with this sort of thing; how many airline miles do you need to get a free ticket?
I guess what Im asking is.. I live in place A.. my parents live in place B which is 2000 miles away… w/ 121 I jump on a flight w/open seats.. with XO, I'd have to pay to visit… but how often would I accumulate enough points/miles to get a free or reduced fare?

Also.. didn't XO used to fly trans-Atlantic?? any chance they'd go back to doing that or will they just farm it out from now on?
Currently that stuff is farmed out. There have been discussions about larger class cabins...but only speculation.

It really depends on where you live. By that I mean if it's predominately one airline then you'll build status quicker. For me I fly all the 3 legacies at any given rotation so my status built slower than say a Hub based crew like SWA and Phoenix.

What you do also get is the option to have an alternate base at the beginning and end of a rotation to request, not gurenteed but usually work with you. You also get basically 4 one ticket guarantees each year to start or end out of ou base (within reason, not gonna fly you to Hawaii or Europe).

If you get an airline card you'll build o point quicker but might sacrifice some hotel points, but I found even without a hotel card you accumulate them quick enough usually.
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Old 10-20-2017, 05:15 AM
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Currently that stuff is farmed out. There have been discussions about larger class cabins...but only speculation.

It really depends on where you live. By that I mean if it's predominately one airline then you'll build status quicker. For me I fly all the 3 legacies at any given rotation so my status built slower than say a Hub based crew like SWA and Phoenix.

What you do also get is the option to have an alternate base at the beginning and end of a rotation to request, not gurenteed but usually work with you. You also get basically 4 one ticket guarantees each year to start or end out of ou base (within reason, not gonna fly you to Hawaii or Europe).

If you get an airline card you'll build o point quicker but might sacrifice some hotel points, but I found even without a hotel card you accumulate them quick enough usually.
Good info, thx!
Curiosity-wise, since I've never flown 135 as pilot or passenger- since there's no flight attendants, are you responsible for safety briefings/ demos?
How do you endure pax have their belts on for takeoff and landing, or are they just on their own assuming their own risks?

As I'm trying to commute on a delayed (mechanical issue) flight.. airn occurs to me: what happens if you're being sent to a plane and this happens? Obviously call and keep them posted, but let's say a flight cancels and you can't get to wherever to fly your flight- clients paying thousands of dollars surely won't be interested in their pilot being super late - I'm guessing some mad scrambling goes on behind the scenes to get someone else in place?

What would you say are the best and worst aspects of XO?
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX View Post
Good info, thx!
Curiosity-wise, since I've never flown 135 as pilot or passenger- since there's no flight attendants, are you responsible for safety briefings/ demos?
How do you endure pax have their belts on for takeoff and landing, or are they just on their own assuming their own risks?

As I'm trying to commute on a delayed (mechanical issue) flight.. airn occurs to me: what happens if you're being sent to a plane and this happens? Obviously call and keep them posted, but let's say a flight cancels and you can't get to wherever to fly your flight- clients paying thousands of dollars surely won't be interested in their pilot being super late - I'm guessing some mad scrambling goes on behind the scenes to get someone else in place?

What would you say are the best and worst aspects of XO?
Yes. One of the crew is responsible for the briefings. Mine have gotten pretty succinct over the years. I need to get better at them.

Airlining on the company's time is the company's problem. They're well aware of the challenges of getting the crews around. Like you said, just email or call ops and make them aware. Murphy's law dictates that a mx problem only occurs on your flight home...never happened to me going to work.

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