HersheySquirts

Except it really is that easy. There are guys who have been on Red Label leave, training dept guys have left. They gave up their time invested in the company and left. The tool response has been when you continuously call management scumbags and voice your disdain for the company yet you won't leave. I'm sure you're a lot of fun to fly with. Nothing like listening about how horrible management is while they buy your 85 dollar meal.

B727DRVR

Squirts,

"If you don't like it, why don't you just leave?" This is the standard battle cry for apologists for scumbag and draconian managements throughout time. But if everyone in aviation had heeded this flawed logic, there would be no "majors". Back then, Executive Jet was not a good place to work, with low pay and only 5 bases. Look at them now, as Netjets, thanks to their Union and former union fighting to make things better.

The same goes with all the "major" airlines... In the 1930's and 1940's, the "majors" were all dirtbag places to work with "fly it or you are fired", just like in today's Part 135, and some 91K, operators, but those pilots dug their heels in and decided to fight.

And this is why we have Netjets vs. everyone else in 135/91k and why the "majors" are the majors.

Please leave the fight to improving the life of Flexjet/Flight Options pilots to the other pilots here obviously involved in the fight and get back to making copies in the office for Management. They really appreciate it.

Dutch1

Thank you! I'll bet he's a real joy to fly with. Calling the office every leg to report his fellow pilots and brown nose...🙄

Dutch1

And I don't order $85 dinners. The guys with the highest food totals are the Tools.

bjtdrvr

I am wondering where this 50 percent growth is? KR did not even say that in his recent annual meeting! They did mention retiring the FO brand so if you count the forcing of all of the FO owners out of the Nextant program and now factor in closing down the Citation X and Legacies forcing those owners to purchase Flex shares, you could maybe call it 50 percent growth. Along with having the arbitrator granting the vsp the company is short pilots but not really from market share growth.

bjtdrvr

Also along with lots of pilots leaving for better jobs.

HersheySquirts

Wow, Dutch, we actually agree on something, I'm shocked. The ones who order 85 dollar meals are tools. I've never said anything to management about anyone, I'm fully capable of handling my differences with my flying partner without anyone else getting involved. In fact, if it doesn't involve sports, or a few hobbies, I really don't have anything to talk about because I don't give a crap about what airplanes are on the ramp or who has what contract etc. I'm pretty sure you're on the 300 so we will probably be paired up at some point. I'll look for the teamsters strong bag tag.

Purpleanga

So this job is for flexjet??????? But not?

Dutch1

They kept the Flexjet name, but everything is Flight Options. Flexjet practices, scheduling, etc. is Options. There isn't anything left of Flexjet.

Dutch1

So the arbitrator has ordered management to present their compensation proposal to us by the 26th. I'm not sure if he will allow it to be made public or not. But we will know whether management is "bargaining in our best interest" as JW said in his email, or if they are full of...it.