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Old 01-21-2017, 06:41 AM
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By the way, when you reach 65 you become totally vested regarrdless. Some kind of ERISA regulation. Years of service goes away.

And yes Nacho, you are a joke.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailaway View Post
By the way, when you reach 65 you become totally vested regarrdless. Some kind of ERISA regulation. Years of service goes away.

And yes Nacho, you are a joke.
Awwww...poor old fella. Don't worry, you'll be falling asleep watching Matlock at Sunny Acres soon enough.
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Old 01-21-2017, 11:24 AM
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Careful, as soon as these old timers learn how to use the Google machine to find this website, they are gonna be offended, and it might cause an aneurism.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:40 AM
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For those of you that have been hired by NetJets in the last couple years, how did the company misrepresent the future (growth, contract, etc.)?

I was hired at a time when growth at NetJets was incredible and overall it has been good to me.

It's disheartening to see the exact opposite is true for many new hires. In addition to disappointing results in the 2015 CBA for new F/Os, I can see why many of them have bad attitudes, are disinterested and emotionally un-invested in the company. I hope they have options for the future, most of them are excellent people and deserve better.

I also hope that NetJets, the pilot group and the union are able to treat each other better in the future and with more objectivity and less selfishness. I haven't seen it in my 10+ years here, but there is always hope. Sometimes, things seem to be headed in the wrong direction.
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:15 AM
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The exact opposite of big growth has been happening for anyone hired in the last 11 years.
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons View Post
The exact opposite of big growth has been happening for anyone hired in the last 11 years.


Not shrinking... becoming more efficient with new aircraft types while reshuffling the entire fleet.

It's not easy to change out 420 airframes in GA... it's never been done and we're making good progress.

Shrinking towards oblivion is shrinking we're used to in aviation... This is a bit different as we're building a strong financial platform with an efficient fleet plan.

Combine that with significant expansion and moving of 100% of the CMH simulators NJA uses in a complete upgrade of the training center and we've got a huge reorganization underway.

Unfortunately, growth is not a great idea while so many balls are in the air.

The time will come... this year where NJA has the potential to move forward in a much more economic fashion serving our Owners travel needs.

At that point, I think you'll see a concerted and professional decision regarding growth.

To grow and not have the proper aircraft or simulators would be like fishing without a proper rod and reel or net.

It feels good but you'll go hungry.


This reorganization process is frustrating for junior pilots to go through to be sure spurring the desire to look elsewhere. Whatever floats your boat but when the logger jam that Hansell and Sokol left behind is cleared, it's all ahead forward.

All on the NJA Train will enjoy the journey.
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:44 AM
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NJA is an okay job for those who upgraded in two years or less. Those looking at a 10-20 year upgrade time, well, make your life decisions accordingly.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post

All on the NJA Train will enjoy the journey.
No, no they won't, and they aren't, which is why they are leaving.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
Not shrinking... becoming more efficient...
Ummm, no. They're just shrinking. That's what it's called when something gets smaller.

Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
This reorganization process is frustrating for junior pilots to go through to be sure spurring the desire to look elsewhere.
The ONLY thing that will change this is a mandatory retirement age. That's it.

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All on the NJA Train will enjoy the journey.
Again...wrong. Most are simply throwing their careers away foolishly by remaining here.
#deadendjob
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:50 PM
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God bless you Mama : ) are you on the mighty XL ?
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