tm602

Or the 60, or the 52. Just a way to do more work with the same amount of people...but all they are doing is setting themselves up for an even bigger fatigue problem than they already have. And busy season right around the corner (as if this summer was light).

Das Auto

When did this happen? I thought 7 & 7 was the default schedule.

Chris99

It is. He is talking about an LOA we had with the company letting us go to the 7&7 right after IOE. We are so short-staffed right now, the company is forcing everyone to take the CC72 or CC76 after IOE until the next bid period they can hold the 7&7.

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sherpster

It is irrelevant. Netjets is not hiring or running classes.

Jetlife

It’s not irrelevant. Anyone who goes on the training schedule is subject to this. Any upgrade or initial training and you are stuck on that schedule until Feb.

NJA04

Why do you insist on trolling NJA. Damn near every day you make a negative post about your past employer. You didn't even work for the company very long yet now you're a NJA expert. Maybe it's time to move on. Or is trolling your hobby?

Jetlife

My bad, is reality trolling? Are you like most Netjets pilots that like to ignore reality and make their own?

Flyfalcons

Yet, everything he said was factual.

AntiPeter

What Jetlife says is often unpleasant, but he for the most part speaks the truth.

NetJets has a lot of problems right now. No matter what the company says, we clearly are understaffed in several fleets and the problem isn't fixable in time for the busy season.

To complicate matters, this problem was caused by, or at least signed off by the union during the CBA 2015 ratification, which allowed for scheduling to become more efficient per the company perspective. Since then, the company has shrunk, less pilots do more work. Sometimes the raises have kept up with the added work load and inflation, but in the cases of F/Os (especially new hires), it has become a bad job for low pay. We can not retain good F/Os in the smaller fleets. The contract is just not competitive.

So...the union has taken up the company on their offer to "make things more efficient and/or improve things mutually". The problem is, the company has already negotiated in bad faith before negotiations have ever gotten underway. They have denied there is a staffing problem even through CHRONIC FATIGUE is a major concern, they have attempted to intimidate pilots with new sick leave policies and tried to usurp our union negotiated fatigue program. Why the union wants to negotiate with the company in light of these events I have no idea.

We come to the busy season overworked. The company has the burden of not having enough pilots. The union has the burden of allowing this problem to get to bad levels.

The lack of pilots and the chronic fatigue, overworked pilot group is a burden that should not be placed on the pilot shoulders this winter. We already have enough to worry about.

While nobody at NetJets has a really great job (say, a Delta pilot that goes to Tokyo twice a month), the Global and G guys sometimes aren't too far behind. Compare that with a new hire working for RJ F/O rates in a Phenom with an average 13 hour duty day, well, conflict arises in the pilot group...solidarity and leverage are lost.

If NetJets does hire soon, just be aware of these facts. The people that created the problem are unlikely to solve it...and sadly the people that created it are still calling the shots.

Stay safe out there. I wish it was better, it certainly could be.

NJA04

I would strongly disagree. His opinion, yes. Factual, no.

Biggest question still remains. Why is he still trolling the fractional section. Move on dude.