BuckeyeFO

It would literally take you less time to immigrate to Iran, be selected to be a fighter pilot for them, go through training, and be placed in an F-14 squadron (based on your avatar) THAN getting hired at Netjets, avoid a furlough for the next 10 years, avoid being killed by a flying dinosaur, be awarded a Global/G FO spot.

I'd say around 15 years give or take.

Jetlackeynomore

Honestly, 13-14 years on property to transition from the smaller FO fleets to the larger ones. ##ADVISE##: Pick your poison people... better career opportunities are abundant unless you have a chubby for getting your 'arss' handed to you daily.

GeeWizDriver

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers so I will give you a couple: First question, YES. Second question: Basically a couple of decades.

If you want to fly Gulfstreams, go buy yourself a type rating, send out resumes to every G operator in the country, and cross your fingers their insurance carrier doesn't care that you don't have experience in type.

Nachomamma

That is to fly it as a First Officer. For a new hire, to fly the long range stuff as a Captain, is.......well, never. It will mathematically never happen. Not ever. Doesn't matter how old you are when you get hired either.

jtf560

Currently the Global requires close to 12 years of seniority and even then, there are still some captains from the small cabin fleets that are downgrading themselves to go to it. Without a new big airplane order, the Gulfstreams will be gone way before anyone new could get in. Also, the majority of Global captains will be here at least another 10 years. I've been with NetJets nearly 12 years and won't ever have the seniority to hold the biggest best airplane as a PIC and I'm relatively young.

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Jetlife

Are there any rumors or rumblings about what they plan to do with the large cabin size of things? Not being the launch customer for the G650, G600 or G500 was a huge mistake. The Globals aren’t gonna cut it.

Is the ultimate plan just to lose some of the large cabin flying?

jtf560

There is an order for the Global 7000. I'd say it is 50/50 whether or not NetJets takes them.

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Jetlife

Yea but with them being incomplete and the fate of the 7000 unknown, I kinda wrote that off as probably not happening. They really need a Gulfstream or Falcon order.

jtf560

They have 4 or 5 7000s flying to get them certified. Bombardier appear to be on track to have them certified by next year. I would be shocked if they aren't certified in the fairly near future now that Bombardier is on more solid ground. As far as Globals vs Gulfstream, the Globals hold their own. The 5000s and 6000s are older than what will be coming out from Gulfstream, but they will still be close enough in performance that it would be financially stupid for NetJets to replace them with the new Gulfstreams or start new types since the business model is to shrink types and be a more efficient operation. The only Gulfstream that would make any sense for NetJets is the 650 with it's greater range and only if NetJets doesn't take the 7000s. I'm not saying the new Gulfstreams won't be great airplanes, but they don't make sense for NetJets.

As far as Falcons go, that is another good set of airplanes that no longer make sense for NetJets. Buying more 2000s would be committing to an old type that will be obsolete before NetJets would be done with them. The Challenger 650 was a worse choice, but it is already made and NetJets has to take 25. I predict NetJets will order the Cessna Hemisphere eventually since it will be new technology with good performance for a better price than the Falcon 5X and NetJets has a much better business relationship with Cessna. Cessna will take our old airframes as trade ins for new jets. NetJets will need more of that size airplane than the 25 650s and will probably end up phasing the 650s out way earlier than normal since they just aren't up to snuff.

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MWilliams

I think 25 Challenger 650s could be a down payment on the hemisphere. Only time will tell.