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Old 12-18-2017, 06:00 PM
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Square Bush is just one of a laundry list of psycho freaks that should be locked in a room. I am honestly not sure if he is truly the worst one of the bunch...
I usually found those with a 1999 date of hire or earlier were the ones you really needed to "see how the trip goes."
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:45 AM
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I usually found those with a 1999 date of hire or earlier were the ones you really needed to "see how the trip goes."
Fog the mirror to get hired group?
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:50 AM
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Fog the mirror to get hired group?
Isn’t that historically how NetJets was hiring before 2005?
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife View Post
Square Bush is just one of a laundry list of psycho freaks that should be locked in a room. I am honestly not sure if he is truly the worst one of the bunch...
Most of the others are just a-holes.

In my opinion, the Shrub is clinically, hopelessly, mentally ill.

But I blame his "friends" in union leadership for continuing to provide him a venue and, more importantly, not getting him the medical assistance he needs.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife View Post
Isn’t that historically how NetJets was hiring before 2005?
No. Before 911 it was like a regional with high turn over, but was a much better place to be while waiting. After 911 they had literally thousands of applications from furloughed airline folks. I had a DAL friend scheduled for an interview a year out. I was able to have that moved up considerably. After 911 I was going to stay and didn't apply to anyone. The job didn't become unbearable to me until the economic collapse of 2008. When it wasn't looking good for our 2015 contract I sent out an application to SWA. After the POSTA 2 came out I sent in an update followed by an interview weeks later and a class date. It was just that easy. For many in that demographic the results would be the same should they decide to leave. SWA has already hired many who have decided to jump ship and more are to come.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
Most of the others are just a-holes.

In my opinion, the Shrub is clinically, hopelessly, mentally ill.

But I blame his "friends" in union leadership for continuing to provide him a venue and, more importantly, not getting him the medical assistance he needs.
Yea he did seem very mentally ill. And an insufferable A hole to top it off.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Finny McCool View Post
No. Before 911 it was like a regional with high turn over, but was a much better place to be while waiting. After 911 they had literally thousands of applications from furloughed airline folks. I had a DAL friend scheduled for an interview a year out. I was able to have that moved up considerably. After 911 I was going to stay and didn't apply to anyone. The job didn't become unbearable to me until the economic collapse of 2008. When it wasn't looking good for our 2015 contract I sent out an application to SWA. After the POSTA 2 came out I sent in an update followed by an interview weeks later and a class date. It was just that easy. For many in that demographic the results would be the same should they decide to leave. SWA has already hired many who have decided to jump ship and more are to come.
I didn’t mean my question from a condescending standpoint. But it seemed that with all the hiring NJA was doing especially 2000-2005 thst it seemed like they were taking whomever they could get and upgrading them in indoc or shortly after.
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Old 12-19-2017, 07:56 AM
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I was hired in 2001 and finally left 2015. They were not hiring everyone they could get. Most were very qualified and yes the upgrade was as fast as you wanted it. I was awarded Capt in basic indoc. In 2001 NJA had new planes parked with no PICS. The contract was why, FO's had bypass pay so for many why upgrade. A lot of Delta guys punched out early in 2002/2003 and came to NJ also.



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I didn’t mean my question from a condescending standpoint. But it seemed that with all the hiring NJA was doing especially 2000-2005 thst it seemed like they were taking whomever they could get and upgrading them in indoc or shortly after.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:03 AM
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I was hired in 2005. I did have good quals thou, military pilot, MBA degree and major airline time. Starting pay was $27.2K/yr back then.

I went to a job fair where Jerry and Derinda (NJA HR staff) had a booth setup. They looked like the Maytag repair people

SouthWest, America West, Cathy Pacific all had long lines. NetJets had no line. I spoke to Derinda, gave her my resume and LOR from a friend at NJA and she immediately said "we'll send you an application ASAP". Back then once you got the app you had to seriously screw up the interview to not get hired. The job fair was on a Saturday, Monday Derinda called me and said my app was in the mail, and because it was a holiday the app was being taken to the post office so it'd go out that day. And she wanted to go ahead and schedule the interview, if the day I wanted was booked she'd overbook it for me. So yea, they were having trouble getting highly qualified candidates to work at NetJets.

Luckily I got the "tech" interview, I only got asked 2 questions I hadn't already read about on an interview website. The HR interview would have been tougher for someone who's not a good BS artist. Questions like "If you were a color what color would you be and why?"

You definitely didn't have to be a rocket scientist to get hired back then. We had a couple of young pilots in my indoc class with no pure jet time, just turboprop. I was aware of the contract offer that was overwhelmingly voted down, I took a chance figuring something better would come along, and it did.

I actually enjoyed the type of flying we did, I had never even seen the inside of a private jet until my NJA interview. But the last few years just got to be too crazy, to the point it affected my health and I had to pull the medical ripcord.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:07 AM
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Yea it seems like the well qualified applicants were a result of the 121 furloughs more than anything else.
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