Deice/Antice
07-21-2015, 07:49 PM
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Deice/Antice
Short thread here, but something often wondered. Do fractional spend the money to deice and anti-ice like at the airlines. While I don't know the approximate cost to do this I do know that it's usually very expensive for charter/private who don't hold contracts with iceman, but if they didn't I would think would greatly hamper their operations.
07-22-2015, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MOGuy
Short thread here, but something often wondered. Do fractional spend the money to deice and anti-ice like at the airlines. While I don't know the approximate cost to do this I do know that it's usually very expensive for charter/private who don't hold contracts with iceman, but if they didn't I would think would greatly hamper their operations.
07-22-2015, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer
Are you asking if Fracs/charter pilots takeoff with ice/snow on our wings? Er. No. We get as much glycol as we need with no questions asked.
07-22-2015, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer
Are you asking if Fracs/charter pilots takeoff with ice/snow on our wings? Er. No. We get as much glycol as we need with no questions asked.
07-22-2015, 11:22 AM
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Fractionals operate in the Clean Aircraft concept.
Nose to tail must be clean. We used to get away with wings n tail in the 121 world but that's hard to explain now.
As for who pays, the contract the share owner signs says that the cost of deice/Antiice is on him.
The price of glycol is a price of doing business. 10,000 gallons of glycol is cheaper than an insurance claim and multiple lawsuits.
As a former Asst CP for a fractional, I view it as "you never question a crew for driving when needed...period, end of discussion!"
As for the private owner, if you have to ask about the cost of de-icing, you can't afford the airplane.
Nose to tail must be clean. We used to get away with wings n tail in the 121 world but that's hard to explain now.
As for who pays, the contract the share owner signs says that the cost of deice/Antiice is on him.
The price of glycol is a price of doing business. 10,000 gallons of glycol is cheaper than an insurance claim and multiple lawsuits.
As a former Asst CP for a fractional, I view it as "you never question a crew for driving when needed...period, end of discussion!"
As for the private owner, if you have to ask about the cost of de-icing, you can't afford the airplane.
07-22-2015, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtysidedown
This. It usually gets billed back to customer. We try to put the plane in a hanger, but they usually fill up at the busier GA airports.
